What kind of narcissistic fuck refers to himself as “high value man”
It’s taking the piss out of Andrew Tate and the gullible guys that he’s convinced are superior to women.
I still have both kidneys, so I’d say I’m pretty “high-value”
I still have both kidneys
So, if a date says you’re “potentially a great match”, clarify “organ donor or personality match”, okay?
From all the trending news articles, ten year old boys who got access to tik tok
it’s definitely not just the ten year olds that think this shit.
Mentally, they’re all still ten-year-olds.
Yeah, shittiest shit stains figured out they could blast on Tik Tok. And Tik Tok sees no problem inserting these videos between “why do we use cinnamon on everything” and “why is the sky blue”
iirc, doesn’t china explicitly not allow such shit on their version of tiktok? so it’s just letting america cut their own throat basically?
They’re probably just milking the market.
Gestures wildly at the men, many in positions of power, around the world, who very obviously would do that.
A manosphere twat, that’s who.
Just look at this thread. How many people in this thread are acting superior to her because she has an only fans or because of some other stupid reddit reason. The people are acting “high valued” and superior even if they dont say it. She’s literally using this comment to tell readers that these peoples opinions have no influence on her life, and all its doing is making them more upset. To me, that’s why this comic is funny
I’m surprised people are being offended by the comic. Just because it’s about a narcissistic asshole who never grew up after high school, doesn’t mean that represents everyone.
I took it as a “Don’t judge a book by its cover” kind of message. Also loved the humor of the woman’s sarcasm. Why do people have to make it about race or gender?
The kind made of straw
I love seeing these comics. You can always count on like 20 white males showing up asking how this is funny, that it’s a strawman, that pizzacake is terrible, blah blah blah.
The simple thing is, they are comics that give a flavor of the times. Males ARE acting this way. Is it a caricature of a scenario, sure, but that’s what a fucking comic is. Does it have to be “funny” in order to be a comic? No, there are political comics everywhere. Why does pizzacake only get this sort of ire? Is it because she’s calling out white males on the absurdity of their actions, and they don’t like it?
My advice? Chill TF out bros. It’s a comic. If you don’t like it, maybe you should talk to your buddies when they start acting like Andrew Taint’s mouthpiece. Toxic masculinity is a real issue. Sorry that it takes a fucking pizzacake comic to discuss it…
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It’s only funny in a very cringe way.
The description that resonates with me is that you agree with what she says but cringe at how she says it. I think it really comes down to the fact that the comics are never deeper than surface level. I’d enjoy them if my takeaway was ever more than “well, yeah…”
For some people, surface level is enough.
Tbh the planet is full of obnoxious, insufferable, outright cunty artists of all stripes…but it’s this one that’s a personal affront.
Gee. Wonder why.
As a white male, I’m not going to disagree with you on any of this.
Related to the content: personally I like opinionated, loud mouthed women. I don’t classify myself as a “high value” male or anything. I mean, who the fuck is that arrogant? I’m not poor, but I’m certainly not rich. I’m much closer to being poor than I am to being rich… But that doesn’t say much.
In any case, the content is funny. It’s an exaggeration of the kind of reaction that people tend to have to dickwads sharing their unsolicited opinions with strangers who don’t care what you think.
I love that it is shining a big fat spotlight on the shitty behaviors that self proclaimed “high value men” think is ok. It’s not ok. Stop it. Get some help.
It’s shameful to share a gender with these degenerates. I am ashamed of my gender because people like the one depicted in the comic, exist. And they’re not a trivial amount either. There’s a good number of them, and it’s fucking embarrassing.
To anyone butthurt about the contents of the comic: first, relax, it’s a joke. Second, how about you treat everyone like they’re a fucking human being? Instead of putting people into little boxes like “high value” or “male” or “female” or whatever, how about you throw all that bullshit out and just see humans. Regardless of race, gender, preferences, religion, anatomical features, disabilities… They’re all human beings deserving of some measure of respect. And don’t give me any shit about “respect is earned”… Fuck you. You need to have a basic level of respect before you can prove yourself as someone deserving of respect; otherwise any action you take will be seen as the feeble flailings of someone nobody cares about to earn some kind of clout.
Everyone should be given a base level of respect until they prove that the respect granted to them for being a human in our society, isn’t deserved.
For everyone else who may still be reading and didn’t get butthurt by a comic: stay frosty.
I don’t think my race or gender matters when it comes to finding things funny. And I thought this comic was funny.
I also don’t think it matters what the race or gender is of the person being an asshole in the comic. That had nothing to do with the comic.
Oh, I agree. I’m right there with you.
I was specifically addressing butthurt white males.
I, personally, couldn’t give a shit what race/gender anyone is, they’re a living human deserving of respect, the kind that isn’t demonstrated by the asshole in the subject comic.
The only reason I’m calling out white males, specifically those that feel butthurt by the comic and have no sense of humor, is because the previous poster specifically cited that group. I’m a member of the white/male group, so I wanted to speak bluntly “man to man” style to any future visitors. Oh my, there are so many issues with referring to it that way; I’m just going to leave it and hope it comes across correctly.
In any case, anyone, regardless of their race, or gender or anything else you can classify people using, has different behaviors or thinks differently (better or worse) about others based on gender/race/whatever, then they’re an asshole.
I will judge others based on the content of their character. That doesn’t make me better than anyone else, I’m only stating my intent. If the content of your character is trash, then I will judge you for the trash you are. If you’re trying to do right, despite falling/failing sometimes, then thats worthy of more consideration than the trash humans mentioned earlier.
I couldn’t possibly give any fewer fucks what color your skin is, or what you have in your pants. Be whatever you want to be, just don’t be an asshole.
“alpha” males chill tf out challenge:
IMPOSSIBLE!!!1
Thanks for that but also crazy that you have to explain it. Guess it’s needed.
I read all the comments and I still don’t understand what makes this comic interesting
I had hoped to escape seeing low-effort Pizzacake comics on the front page when I left reddit for good.
I don’t even understand what the joke is or if there even is one
There’s no joke, are you familiar with clapter?
This is false. The joke is that she is being sarcastic and derisive to an arrogant man for his foolish assumptions. Do you only see punchlines as highly literal observational ends to highly structured jokes? Because there’s a lot of jokes that aren’t structured this way or built on punchlines, set ups, observations, or the like.
I guess melodramatic sarcasm isn’t for everyone. I got a nice little chuckle out of it.
It’s four panel joke. 1. An arrogant man says he would never be with woman he’s apparently never met and knows nothing about 2. The woman, rather than being upset, leans into his arrogant rejection by pretending she is devastated at the rejection 3-4 she continues to sarcastically be upset about the rejection to mock and derid this arrogant man.
That’s it man. Pretty simple joke.
That’s really stupid lol
But the question is, does that mean that the amount of time you spend focusing on it, asking about it, demanding strangers explain it to you, an even stupider use of time and effort?
Since it’s top post I thought I was missing something. Now I’m confused why it’s top post
It’s a political statement. Guys are talking this way. Sure it’s a caricature, but that doesn’t make the statement less meaningful. Toxic masculinity is just that…it’s toxic AF, and while I may not think she has the funniest comic ever, it’s a good way to showcase the absurdity of our current times.
This is just reddit garbage, nothing funny here at all
Yup. This checks all of the “that is definitely how people talk”-boxes. It’s like an invented dialogue meets a fantasy answer.
Can we not have AIop being upvoted to the top? Thanks.
Why is it that everytime I see this artist nowadays it’s just a preachy kill-a-strawman comic? I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened? Did they change, did I? Am I mistaking a shite copycat for an artist I remember fondly? Is this what senility feels like? How was your day?
I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hidden-motives/201203/unreliable-memory
Don’t gaslight people lol
you see, when somebody says something mean to you online, spending your time on 4-panel is the best way to prove how not mad you are, consult some Dobson webcomics if you need examples.
A strawman? What the fuck are you talking about?
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He apparently identified with the arrogant man in the comic.
Is it really a strawman when we see actual headlines about public figures acting this way?
Today in things that never happened:
Or maybe it would happen in the US. I wouldn’t be surprised anymore.
Wait until you learn that cats don’t really like lasagna.
This happens literally every day. lmao
Really? So people randomly approach you on the street and proclaim they’ll never date you?
YES. Literally yes.
I’ve been approached by men who say I’m wearing too much makeup and that men don’t like that. That I should smile more if I want a boyfriend. That my clothes aren’t very flattering and it’s unattractive to him.
Like, for all your talk of “go outside” you don’t seem to know what life is like for women outside.
What country?
Mine? America. I even live in a very blue “progressive” area. But I have friends in the UK that have similar experinces. Frankly, why would that even matter? This sort of thing happens all over.
America. Typical. I would like you to come to Scandinavia, then. You might get a culture shock.
I live in Norway. While it is less prevalent here than elsewhere, please understand that it still very much exists.
If you were even vaguely representative of Scandinavians, I’d steer clear. Luckily, I have family in Norway and Finland, so I know you’re just an ass and are full of shit.
Not excusing ignorance but it is wild how different the experience of the average man or woman can be just existing in public. It makes sense to me that a man who is largely a basement dweller would have no first hand exposure to that sort of behavior.
You’re speaking for yourself, I presume?
sick comeback bro that must go over really well in your middle school
Try asking any female friend if they can relate to this comic.
I’ll ask my work colleagues in the union club. I’m sure perhaps my colleagues from Arabic countries might relate, but that’s about it.
I’m sure perhaps my colleagues from Arabic countries might relate
So you agree that is does in fact happen?
I said might. What’s more true in Arabic countries is that women aren’t allowed to be approached for most reasons.
That was a quick referral. So you’re just changing your argument to be whatever disagrees with the person who who replies to you instead of having a coherent point.
My point is this doesn’t happen. That point hasn’t changed.
I’m sure perhaps my colleagues from Arabic countries might relate
Pick a lane.
Oh, sweet summer child.
Given everything, I’m guessing they don’t have any.
Try asking any female friend
Why don’t you also ask him to end world hunger while you’re at it? He has equal chances at both.
They’d need to interact with a woman on a personal level to be able to accomplish that.
You know this is a comic, not a news article, right?
Yeah? The comic is making a statement, no?
Either you never seen the comment section of any post ever, or you the dude who makes these kind of comments.
Yes, because comment sections on Lemmy/Reddit/Social Media are a good metric for what happens AFK. We saw that when Lemmy/Reddit perfectly predicted the crushing loss of Donald Trump.
Oh wait…
I’d suggest going out more and hanging out with real people.
We saw that when Lemmy/Reddit perfectly predicted the crushing loss of Donald Trump.
As I recall Lemmy/Reddit was telling people how important it was to vote, because Trump wasn’t guaranteed to lose, and if he wins he’s going to become a dictator.
Seems pretty accurate to me.
But you seem to have a pattern of not actually listening to what people are saying so I’m not surprised you got that wrong.
You’re not from US, but somehow you know what hanging out with real people is like here?
I think they’re referring to the online experience. Every single post about some “woman who does something intelligent / skillful”, with enough attention (and it doesn’t take much!), will contain guys being absolute shits.
Seems like the confusion can be attributed to assuming the discussion was limited to “being outside”.
I really hate their comics. Never anything original.
I really hate scrolling through comments to find ones like this. Never adds to the conversation.
Only fawning praise adds to the conversation
Whoosh!
How does someone going against the popular opinion not add to the conversation??
You really didn’t see what I was doing there, huh?
You’re right, they did add something to the conversation. And what they added was a low effort post that did nothing other than waste electricity.
Can I please stop seeing this crap on my feed?
Blocking this community for pizzacake spam lately
Okay, and?
I just went through the last 10 days of posts in the community. This is the only PC one that shows up in that time frame. Other artists have multipes in that time. So, less than once a week… guess there are different ideas of what is spam.
Any normal human would go, “Whatever” and move on.
But not this person. They wanted to let people know that they have been visually assaulted, made up a story about seeing it too much, and then even says “I’m blocking you!”
For a moment there I thought you were talking about PC.
This ain’t an airport, we don’t care about your departure.
Cool story bro
Whats the joke here?
There’s no joke. People seem to enjoy feeling either superior or outraged or both and the name of the game is user engagement. That’s how you end up with this type of thing.
The green lady thinks “who’d pay for her nudes?” means “I won’t date you”
Huh? I dont care who made the comic im just wondering what the actual punchline is.
The punchline is entirely self-referential. Or rather, there isn’t a punchline. This is a really basic exchange as could be found in the real comment sections of basically any woman posting photos of herself online.
Except that the person who draws this comic uses it primarily to advertise her OnlyFans, so somehow she’s connected annoyance with the constant promotion of her terrible joke-free comics with the same thing that that means all criticism of her is incel fury and not, yknow, people wanting comics to be promoted for how good they are rather than how entrenched her subscribers are.
I see now what everyone’s talking about, without really broaching the subject (without sounding totally incel). This sums is up nicely, although even including that she does OF will make some people call you the incel. At any rate, thank you
Some men think women care about “value” of people when dating but instead women are either not looking for a relationship or not as objectifying as these men
The punchline is that women now use this dumb “value” idea to filter out who to even associate with in the first place, by just avoiding any guy who mentions this shit
I guess i just don’t like these type of comics. It’s akin to someone posting “Haterz r my motivatorz!” on facebook circa 2011
This is better imo, part of the punchline here is that she’s already married and is just fucking annoyed by this guy hitting on her in the most disrespectful way possible
The fuck are you on about?
Probably about PCC author having an onlyfans
I didn’t mean to attract incels with my comment
I feel like this is one of those conversations you make up in your head and it’s kinda cringe to write it down.
From my experience men often underestimate how often women face weirdos. While the whole conversation might happen only in authors head the initial comment of the guy is quite a regular thing. It is a form of bullying. The rest of the conversation might happen in the authors head only, but it’s sad that women have to face such behavior in the first place IMO. If you don’t think such conversation happens at all, you might get enlightened by the everyday sexism project, the related (audio)book, or just ask a friendly woman around you if they ever faced it. https://everydaysexism.com/
When you consider the source….
Big shower-arguement energy for sure.
Actually it is a regular thing among the asshole “manosphere” crowd (i.e. the pathetic fucking losersphere).
I can see this as a twitter exchange for sure but irl it seems very shower thoughtesque. It could be that a very online person framed it as an irl thing and that what’s jarring.
Then again I am not a woman and cannot speak to that experience.
You’ve had this conversation?
No, but I thought about having it, so basically the same thing, eh?
No but I’ve seen it. I’m not a manosphere wacko
Lemmy is 97% Linux users
Aka, high value men
These programming socks have no gender
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There is a whole generation of men being indoctrinated right now that believe women shouldn’t have any rights. Most feminist women on Instagram that I have seen have gotten a multitude of rape and murder threats.
It is nice for you if you never noticed the rampant sexism and general hatefulness that people on the internet show against any minorities they find but I’ve seen several instances of similar exchanges as shown in this comic just in the last two weeks.
Sure, misogyny exists. I’m talking about somebody referring to themselves as “high value” and calling the person they’re talking to a “loud-mouthed, opinionated wench”. It’s just really heavy-handed dialogue.
Those people unironically say stuff like “I wouldn’t even rape you” and call women that don’t look like they are about to die of anorexia fat. They exist in spades, Lemmy just isn’t the right kind of social media for those people to come out with such stuff (except for maybe this post).
I brought up an example of a specific sexist and controlling behavior I observed (guys holding their wives or girlfriends by the neck while walking across the street, like they were steering a chicken) in a meetup group and all the men around me said they had never seen it. The two women said they both had experienced it.
Repeat this a thousand and one times with other behavior I and presumably you, as men, will never have to experience but are just as real.
Just look at this thread. People are out in force acting superior to her and putting her down for having an only fans. Theyre providing unsolicited feedback, acting “high valued” without even realize theyre doing it. This comic is showing how she sees the unsolicited feedback from these people on the internet, and calls it out as it is, inconsequential to her life. And what do those very same people do? Get even more upset.
Frankly, i knew nothing about this lady before this thread happened. It’s been a wild ride for me to follow
How dare you
wait, is this what I think it is?
I’m at a loss for words
This dog shit comic being spammed on *eddit was a good reason to leave that shithole
Yeah, the virtue signaling is at an insane level, but the author never seems to take their own advice or take it well when anyone points out their blind spots.
I don’t think this is the right place for you then either. Maybe try X or “Truth” Social?
Excuse you. Liking pizzacake is not a prerequisite to be a sane normal person.
IKR, that’s like the ultimate reddit opinion to have. 😂
So, if someone disagrees with your opinion of PizzaShit, they’re somehow a conservative?
Jesus fucking Christ. This is truly r/comics Al over again.
Pot: Meet kettle.
Jfc. You can’t make this up
I guess you should just leave instead of posting shit comments.
she’s had some real shitty opinions but she’s generally in the right ballpark.
I generally agree with her opinions, but there’s more to thinking a comic is good than pointing at it and going “wow i think that too.” They always just seem like super generic “relatable” jokes, and it’s crazy that they always get 50 billion upvotes.
low hanging fruit is low hanging fruit for a reason. it’s accessible.
The only comic of hers that I’ve found morally objectionable was years ago now, and framed around complaining about her kids.
It had thousands of downvotes (on reddit) and all the comments were calling her out for being entierly responsible for her situation as a parent, and telling her to suck it up and step up because bitching out her kids like that was damaging them, unproductive and absolutely not funny.
Out of the thousands of comic panels of hers that I’ve seen, that’s really not a bad track record at all.
she also downplayed male rape a while back. and doubled down on it.
Yeah, on this topic I feel like she’s in the ballpark. My girlfriend and I game in the same spaces but we don’t always announce that we are together IRL for privacy sake. And we are both very independent people.
The amount of weird dudes she’s ran into that have used “high value man” or “high value woman” is absolutely more than one. They’re pretty common to bump into in online spaces.
The last time she ran into a problem with a dude like this—she read me the chat as it was going down. The guy was clearly into her but couldn’t handle that she was taken and had no interest. So, this random dude proceeded to call me a cuck (hahaha), asked if I “knew what she was up to” (gaming? lol), and that no high value man would want her! He did this in a public gaming space too and about 50 people thankfully dog piled and ratioed him into oblivion.
Oh well! I guess she’s stuck with “her low value cuck man” who makes her coffee in bed every morning and with whom she raised a cute and healthy family with. She’s allowed to do whatever she wants and her male doesn’t even try to control her. How horrible! She’ll never recover!
These dudes are dangerous in numbers. Which is why they deserve and need to be mocked mercilessly until they fuck off or get therapy.
Which is why they deserve and need to be mocked mercilessly until they fuck off or get therapy.
I’m doing my part. 🫡
Actually, I missed this thread.
I don’t see what’s dogshit about it. Maybe you just don’t like it?
Fits the current comic btw.
I’d suggest 4chan as a more suitable alternative buuuuut…
Fun fact: no one is forcing you to read comics you dislike! If you don’t like a post, you are allowed to scroll past it.
You’re welcome to make your own comic if you think you can do better.
now now. that’s just a stupid stance to take. you don’t have to make media to be critical of it.
or do you have to make a podcast to say joe rogan’s slop is toxic, diseased, and damaging to society?
You’re right of course! But also there’s a big difference between real criticism and just saying something is “dogshit”. In fact you criticized Joe Rogan’s stuff properly, by drawing attention to the negative effects it has on people. We could go even further and pick out specific cases. (Though there’s no need to in this case, I agree with you.)
On the other hand, shitting on something with no reasoning just makes you a hater. I work with several comic artists professionally, and a common thing they ALL see is a nontrivial percentage of commenters who simply disparage everything. This is not because the content is inherently bad, but because all these trolls can do is destroy, not create.
Them saying Joe Rogan’s podcast is “toxic, diseased, and damaging to society” is not better critique than the other poster calling this comic dog shit. Both are just statements that provide no argument or reasoning behind the statements. Sure they could back it up with examples why it is so, but so could the other commenter, which would make either of those comments valid criticism, but without they are equally good (or bad) criticism.
I think it’s fine because we were operating on an implicit set of shared knowledge. Not every communication needs to be a research paper.
I have no understanding (implicit or explicit) of why the original commenter hated this comic, and clearly that’s the case for the vast majority of the voters here.
Providing 2-3 lines of explanatory context is hardly a research paper, but enough to illustrate reason behind a simple statement.
AFAIK, the author of this comic is somewhat of an asshat that exercises varying degree of censorship on a comic strip subreddit, based on their personal beliefs.
like i replied to the original comment that person is complaining about, she’s had some really dumb takes but is usually in the right ballpark. those dumb takes were also cases where she doubled down and yeah, that subreddit is basically a safespace for their superusers/content creators.
“This is a dog shit comic” is not a critique, though, is the thing. It’s just jerking off in public.
The great thing about lemmy is that if you don’t like a post, there is another one under it.
Lol. Dog shit comments like this being posted on reddit was a good reason to leave that shithole.
I’m not a fan of her comics, I just don’t find them very funny. But the level of unconstructive hate she gets is absurd. Just move on if you don’t like the comics. If you really dislike them, just block the user or community. It’s not hard. Grow up.
we don’t want you here
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Can we please not bring pizza cake comics over from reddit? They’re so mid they aren’t even funny. Strawman comics that show off the author’s frustrations.
Thank you
It makes the normies feel like their virtues are being validated, let them have it.
Or we bring all content and you can just skip the crap you don’t like. You know, like most of us do with other things.
I agree that skipping content is the way to go, Lemmy is federated and all that, but I don’t think it works with a post like this.
This post somehow got 1.2k likes but there’s no real discussion in the comments (mainly about the author like we are discussing right now) and it doesn’t contribute anything of value to the site. It’s a post that most people probably scroll past without giving it any thought, like, and immediately forget - the worst type of social media content for which I don’t see a reason to exist here.
I like Lemmy because it has a kind of “people using a website” feel instead of a “generic content slop feed” vibe like reddit, tiktok, ect. I think Lemmy, as a community, should encourage high quality OC content on the platform instead of accepting generic and forgettable posts like this and just saying “ignore it”.
I’m with you on this one.
