I have a Synology DS923+ as my NAS which currently runs Plex, Immich and a couple other things.
I also have a Intel NUC (8th gen) which has Proxmox on it which mainly does PiHole and HomePage. I would like to use the NUC for PiHole, Immich, Plex, HomePage and Home Assistant.
Is Proxmox the best system to use for these applications? Would it be easier to just install Debian and Docker and run everything through containers on one OS instead of splitting them all up into LXC or VMs?
I would also like the convenience of easily updating containers through a GUI. I am not afraid of SSH and CLI but it’s nice to go to a browser address and see everything in one place. Kind of like how DSM7 is set up on Synology.
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Check out Komodo for doing docker UI work. Pretty new, but already awesome and making lots of progress
This looks like an alternative to portainer or dockge. Am I correct?
Yeah, it’s an alt to portainer
What are the benefits to komono vs portainer or dockge?
I’ve only tried Komodo, but I like that it’s open source and not trying to squeeze money for extra features
Lack of business version is a big win over portainer. I’ll have to look at the feature set. Right now I use dockge and don’t feel like im missing anything but always open to new stuff. Does it save the compose files in a volume or bind mount by default?
It has a git repository option that I use. So every compose file I add to define a service goes into the repo as a commit.
Six one way half a dozen the other.
I personally would go down the proxmox lxc route using the Proxmox Helper Scrips the get the containers up and running.
I’d say go Debian and Docker, proxmox is nice if you’re running a lot of VMs or want HA and clustering but otherwise you don’t really need it.
If you want a GUI for docker containers there are several, Komodo or Portainer are good options.
It’s really just personal preference, and either way is fine.
I have a DS218Play and a Intel NUC 6th gen with Proxmox.
I use my NAS as file sharing, everything else is running in Proxmox: HomeAssistant, Plex, Immich, QBitorrent, AdGuard, Frigate, ARR suite…
How do you find frigate with the NUC? It works pretty well?
It works well, but I only have one camera and I’ve set a low resolution stream for frigate detection.
Proxmox definitely has a harder set-up i am currently doing it right now and I’ve found it a bit of a learning curve, but it is definitely the ultimately better and more fun option if you ask me ;)
Someone should correct me if I’m wrong but auto update should be as easy as scheduling the commands for apt or whatever package manager your using to update.
Since you have Proxmox why would you switch? If you don’t like it, then by all means, there are lots of other options. However there is a good reason Proxmox comes up a lot. (I don’t personally use Proxmox so I don’t know those reasons, but the people who recommend it give every indication they are smart people who understand the problem and so I trust them enough to say it is a good option)
Best is a subjective question. There is no objective way to say what is best. We can argue about pros and cons. We can argue about what we prefer. However that is all subjective and there is no one best answer.
I would recommend Unraid. Not sure what people think of it round here as surprised no one has mentioned it. My homelab was a mix of machines for VMs, Docker and NAS, and I consolidated it last year with Unraid and couldn’t be happier. I run Plex, Immich, Wordpress, Home Assistant and a load of other containers, alongside a Windows and Ubuntu VM on a cheap eBay HP Z workstation. If on a NUC with only a single drive, V7 of Unraid will now work without an array, so a single drive basically. It’ll give you a GUI for Docker and everything.
What’s the verdict on yunohost if we are talking easy? I think so the applications being mentioned has good support on yunohost?
Run K8S on a VM on Proxmox for this stuff
Kubernetes is hard and complex but if you want something flexible and scalable it is what you want.
Hey, it’s nice to talk to you. I’ve seen you around this community and I like your comments.
I said K8S because I work with it, but if OP doesn’t need HA I guess Podman is fine too. I don’t like Docker anymore after what they pulled a year or so back
Docker compose is still a solid way to deploy software. Podman is cool but still fairly new.
Kubernetes is just a beast to work with. Unless you absolutely want I wouldn’t bother. K3s isn’t bad but it is painful to do anything.
Home Assistant insists that it must run on bare metal hardware and will not work well. This is a purely artificial limitation that home assistant puts on you. You can work around it with a lot of effort, or the limitations might not matter to you, but it is a limit to be aware of. I personally went to OpenHAB instead, but YMMV.
I’ve been running Home Assistant (HAOS) on Proxmox for years with no issues. It doesn’t need to be on bare metal. VMs work fine.
I never read such a thing. I never had that myself and run ha on proxmox since many years. on Debian OS on proxmox.
Uhhh, I have always used Docker for Home Assistant with no issues? That being said, I’m no HA power user at all - so maybe you could elaborate about the limits you’ve encountered?
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/ Home assistant container - the version for docker - doesn’t support add-ons. If you go through a lot of effort you can make it work, but you won’t get help. (easiest is to install some linux in the docker and then home assistant supervised on top of that)
There is no reason HAOS couldn’t run just fine in a container (qemu not docker), but they intentionally detect that and break it (I tried, I probably could make it work but I don’t have that much time)
To be fair, Addons are just other containers. If you’re using a Docker install for Home Assistant, I think the idea is you already have a handle on your docker host, and you’re capable of adding whatever other containers you might need.
