Which terrorist do you think I support?

Not my fault you used 2 conflicting arguments at the same time

So do you think it was a genocide before Trump or not? You said “biden isn’t president of israel” which implies that a genocide was going on but Biden wasn’t responsible. But you also said “you dont know what genocide is” implying that it wasnt a genocide at all.

Which is it?

Wait, do you think its a genocide or not? I’m confused

Oh I see, our fundamental disagreement is that you don’t think Israel is committing genocide against the palestinians. I think trapping people inside a narrow strip of land, cutting off their supply of food and water, and carpet bombing the place for 2 years is definitely genocide but I guess you know better or whatever

Suffering will persist, the hope is to divide it equally.

Now there’s something I can get on board with comrade

You JUST claimed that I didn’t ask for concrete goals then I showed you that I explicitly asked for concrete goals and you ignore that.

do you have memory loss issues?

No one genuinely asked me for concrete goals

This was my original response to you:

Buying time for what? What can we make the Dems deliver on that will take us out of this state where we’re constantly having to vote to avoid fascism and nothing else?

You expect me to read the whole book you wrote but you can’t read past word 4 of my post?

This is why it’s a waste of time working with Democrats because when you ask them for concrete goals all you get is philosophical sounding nonsense

Ruining the planet for everyone is worse than anything else and on that issue both sides are the same

Both parties are ruining the planet, we agree on that, let’s leave it there

Thanks for agreeing with me that on the biggest most important issues both sides are the same

An unlivable planet is worse than all those things

What gov database do you have access to that tells you the financial status of lemmy users in this thread

How would Harris have been better for Palestinians? She was part of an admin that was assisting their genocide and always maintained that she would continue doing that.

“boring corporatists” are destroying our planet and making it unlivable.

Buying time for what? What can we make the Dems deliver on that will take us out of this state where we’re constantly having to vote to avoid fascism and nothing else?

Telling people you disagree with to leave the country is the most conservative stance you can take. Just join the Republicans if you’re gonna be that far right

The argument is whether “lefties” have a functional model of government and they objectively do, contrary to your claim.

As for superpowers all doing bad things, I’m arguing specifically that the US does and has done significantly MORE bad things than other big countries like China or the USSR.

also I listed 5 countries and 4 of them still exist. You skipped over 3 of them because you realized how weak your argument was

Cuba, Vietnam, China, Venezuela, the USSR. These are some examples of a lefty functional model of government.

but your gonna say “those governments did bad things”

And I’m gonna say “not as many bad things as the capitalist US of A”