Similarly, a trans man was lured by a woman in New York and was tortured and murdered over the course of a month by multiple people. Totally not a hate crime though!

(The cops had been ignoring his family begging them to check in for months.)

Are you Catholic?

Am I claiming a special status here?

He does not talk like any Catholic I have known. I have family who are Irish Catholics who attend regularly.

My claim is that he doesn’t sound like Catholics I have known, specifically the family members I have who have specific ties to both Irishness and Catholicism and identify with both, as do many members of the diaspora. (From my buddies stories about seeing things like “kill all taigs” graffiti growing up - I think there’s maybe something special about being an Irish Catholic that might merit being called an “Irish Catholic” rather than a regular one. Do the Polish American Catholics in Chicago worship at the same parishes as the Irish American ones?)

You’re kinda galloping all over the place looking for a point to make.

I think people get defense around the idea of “male privilege” because they think it’s getting them something extra. It’s more all of the shit you don’t have to deal with.

Unironically yes. As a male STEM student, I had a much easier time finding a study group, I didn’t feel singled out and isolated in my classes, and people took the things I said seriously.

It’s like magic when I go to the doctor - the second they find out a uterus, it’s like their whole body language changes.

OK? What does that mean? Heck are they Catholics from Ireland or American Roman Catholics whose ancestors cane from Ireland?

You know diaspora is a thing, and a lot of Irish American families identify specifically as Irish Catholics?

Also had a buddy that was actually from Ireland and raised Catholic. He was a pretty vocal atheist but also hooked me onto how lit Sinn Fein is.

The first headline: “Global pastor: In word and deed, pope preached mercy, outreach”

Not “a pastor.” Emphasizing global.

That second article, the journalist is the one using the term “pastor.” It does not appear in quotes.

Third one is closest to your point, but again the wording is very difference from Vance.

“You know, I think for Francis, the image of the good Shepherd was very, very important … to seek out the lost sheep. So I think he’s going to be remembered as a pastor.”

It’s kinda strange how eager some of y’all are to defend Vance from the allegation of speaking in a weird and off putting way.

Edit: Let’s try phone a friend (lapsed Catholic, invited me to services a few times for the sit kneel stand routine. The open air service I attended at the Vatican itself felt more Christlike to me, tbh)

I have heard the metaphor. It’s not a term someone would use to describe the pope. It would make sense if he was referring to his local parish’s pastor. It does not make any sense for a Catholic to describe the pope this way.

He does not talk like any Catholic I have known. I have family who are Irish Catholics who attend regularly. I have a dear friend who was really wrestling with his faith and sexuality, who chose St Francis as his patron and was a lot more eloquent than this shit. I have had discussions with actual trad caths. The person who gave me a tour of the Vatican worked for the Vatican.

The way Vance is talking is off putting and weird, and along with basically everything else about him, indicates that he doesn’t give a shit about the religion or its beliefs. He’s like a 4chan asshole who converts because they like posting Deus Vult and “Remove Kebab” memes. Aesthetic, not substance.

Are you joking or have you literally never stepped foot in any Roman Catholic space?

Nope, never.

No - it’s more that this isn’t the way that Catholics talk, because Vance doesn’t give a shit about Catholicism and is only one because he thinks it gives him street cred.

Vance told Dreher that he’d converted because he “became persuaded over time that Catholicism was true” and had observed that the people who meant the most to him were Catholic. Vance said his conversion would have happened sooner if not for the clergy sexual abuse crisis, which “forced me to process the church as a divine and a human institution, and what it would mean for my 2-year-old son.”

Compelling testimony. He’s very aligned with the intellectualism of his patron Saint.

And one of the subtexts about my return to Christianity is that I had come from a world that wasn’t super-intellectual about the Christian faith. I spend a lot of my time these days among a lot of intellectual people who aren’t Christian. Augustine gave me a way to understand Christian faith in a strongly intellectual way. I also went through an angry atheist phase. As someone who spent a lot of his life buying into the lie that you had to be stupid to be a Christian, Augustine really demonstrated in a moving way that that’s not true.

I totally believe he had an angry atheist Richard Dawkins phase.

Autistic and other children with exceptionalities are already tortured (and killed) at “troubled teen facilities.”

These are almost entirely unregulated. There are no requirements that these facilities hire qualified staff, background check their staff, provide evidence based treatments. Children who are marked as mentally ill are not considered reliable narrators, so their accounts of abuse are not believed. (It’s funny - I try to report things that happened to me more than ten years ago, and it’s “too late” - but at the time they called me a liar, called it a symptom and hopped me up on Resperdal. How exactly does a teenager in one of these facilities get help?)

Turnabout Ranch, the place that Dr Phil sent kids like Bhad Baby to, allowed kids to be hurt.

There are already things in place that would facilitate an Aktion T4 style program. Southern states especially have horrendous child welfare systems, and children do die in “treatment.”

It’s going to be vaccines. That’s what RFK is looking for.

The school Hans Asperger sent autistic children to:

Am Spiegelgrund was divided into a reform school and a children’s ward, where sick and disabled adolescents were unwitting subjects of medical experiments and victims of nutritional and psychological abuse. Some died by lethal injection and gas poisoning; others by disease, starvation, exposure to the elements, and “accidents” relating to their conditions. The brains of up to 800 victims were preserved in jars and housed in the hospital for decades.

Imagine if someone bragged about how big of a Star Wars fan they were, and they referred to Jar Jar Binks as a Jedi.

Calling someone a “pastor” is a Protestant thing. You wouldn’t hear a Catholic call The Pope a pastor.

Vance, like a lot of tradcaths, is LARPing because the rituals look cool. Sorta like how Andrew Tate is a “Muslim” because he thinks it’s all about controlling women, but at the same time unabashedly drinks in public.

Like not all Catholics are obsessed with the Pope, but like I have merch of the man from my Vatican visit. I have some conservative Catholic family critical of the Pope’s more progressive views, but they would never talk like this.

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ROME (AP) — Violence and discrimination against women in Italy is a “prevailing and urgent concern,” a European expert on human rights said Thursday in a scathing report that comes amid a national outcry over a gruesome murder of a young woman allegedly by her ex-boyfriend.

Dunja Mijatovic, commissioner for human rights at the Council of Europe, faulted Italy across multiple areas, lamenting that Italian courts and police sometimes revictimize the victims of gender-based violence and that women have increasingly less access to abortion services. She also noted Italy’s last-place in the EU ranking for gender equality in the workplace.

Not when it was a number used once to arrange a group project meeting and that we had not connected otherwise? Two years later - I had dropped out?

One thing I noticed as in my progress through as STEM major was the decline in number of female classmates. Calc 3 might have a reasonable number, but the drop off was exponential. The college run that got me through was done as a man, so I didn’t experience the stuff but I heard rumors. Worse than rumors from post docs in the lab I worked in.

He’s a failed theatre kid. He probably got rejected for a pre-blocking handy on Guys and Dolls.

Yeah - just like how Stellar Blade (vidya game) was the great end to wokeness because it had a (not underage!) girl that sounded like a child but was dressed like a stripper.