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Cake day: August 5th, 2023

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  • So yes, the landscape is changing drastically. As it has done before. I believe it’s possible for us to adapt when that happens, as we have before. We’re not yet at the point you describe so I couldn’t say how it’ll happen. But I have a blind faith that it’s at least possible for us. This doesn’t mean we should relax and wait for it to happen, but I would rather think about solutions than “oh no we’re fucked nooo”.




  • Maybe I miscommunicated my position. I’m not interested in withholding housing or support from anyone. As a previous recipient of such services, I will always advocate their value. I think we should be doing more, not less. I simply think the value of housing and mental health services is multiplied exponentially when they are combined.

    Being homeless causes mental health and drug abuse, not the other way around.

    You’re saying this with authority as if it’s some sort of universal truth when it is not. Speaking from experience having been homeless myself (2 years between Seattle and LA), both are true. Many people end up homeless because of how their mental illness has affected their ability to go about daily life. For these individuals specifically, housing alone is not a cure-all. If that person doesn’t receive some other kind of support, their life is still unmanageable for them.

    To treat the general problem of homelessness, both types of people in this binary have to be considered.



  • Your point is not only valid but also significant, and I feel stands in addition, not contradiction, to my point. These people now have something to continuously bounce ideas off; a conversational partner that never says no. A perpetual yes-man. The models are heavily biased towards the positive simply by nature of what they are, predicting what comes next. You (may or may not) know how in improv acting there’s a saying called “yes, and” which serves to keep things always moving forward. These models effectively exist in this state, in perpetuity.

    Previously, people who have ideas such as these will experience near-universal rejection from those around them (if they don’t have charisma in which case they start a cult) which results in a (relatively, imo) small number of extreme cases. I fear the presence of such a perpetual yes-man will only accelerate all kinds of damage that can emerge from nonsensical thinking.



  • Totally fair point but I really don’t know if that’s true. Most mainstream delusions have the side effect of creating community and bringing people together, other negative aspects notwithstanding. The delusions referenced in the article are more akin to acute psychosis, as the individual becomes isolated, nobody to share delusions with but the chatbot.

    With traditional mainstream delusions, there also exists a relatively clear path out, with corresponding communities. ExJW, ExChristian, etc. People are able to help others escape that particular in-group when they’re familiar with how it works. But how do you deprogram someone when they’ve been programmed with gibberish? It’s like reverse engineering a black box. This is scaring me as I write it.