• barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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    27 days ago

    “He is no longer welcome to be alive”

    And

    “We are Luigi. We Are One.”

    This guy is innocent of all charges, but whoever wrote that has a way with words.

  • opus86@lemmy.today
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    26 days ago

    Let him cook! All of the thousands of lives Musk and his meme boys have ruined should follow them forever.

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    28 days ago

    Investigators were alerted to his accounts after finding an unusually high number of log-ins and failed log-ins from an unfamiliar devices, locations, or networks. That information is tracked by Google, per the affidavit. Other unusual activity was traced through Payne’s VPN or network provider.

    So, Google stopped him, and his VPN provider. I’d like to know who his VPN provider was.

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      28 days ago

      Investigators were alerted to his accounts after finding an unusually high number of log-ins and failed log-ins from an unfamiliar devices, locations, or networks

      I really don’t get that part. How did they make the connection?

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        28 days ago

        You try to login to your google account with the right credentials from several different locations? Yeah that’s suspicious.

        1-3 regular locations per account is a bit more normal

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          28 days ago

          Are you saying we all need to install a continually rotating VPN when we’re surfing the internet? As chaff?

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          28 days ago

          Suspicious to Google sure, but I don’t see how the authorities would get involved.

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            28 days ago

            I think the article is telling us in reverse order of discovery which makes it VERY confusing to parse:

            As in:

            Investigators from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Joint Terrorism Task Force retraced the roots of the digital messages Payne allegedly sent to the media outlets.

            Okay, so where did the “digital messages” come from?

            According to the affidavit, Payne used a Proton email address,

            Okay, they knew the source of the message was Proton email. One subpoena of Proton later, they know the IP address(s) of the email client/app logging into Proton. So now they have a whole bunch of IP addresses of VPN exit nodes. So they reach out to the VPN provider:

            Other unusual activity was traced through Payne’s VPN

            So they ask the VPN provider to provide the origin address of the VPN logins, and come back to a cell phone (network) provider

            or network provider.

            So they ask the network provider to provide the info on the owner, except its a burner, so the provider doesn’t know. Hmm, okay so they know its coming from Burner Phone X, but not who owns Burner Phone X. Mr Google, Mr Microsoft, etc, do you have any activity from these Mobile phone company IP addresses at this time?

            That information is tracked by Google

            Ah! So Mr Google does. Anything stand out to you with the activity you’re seeing?

            Investigators were alerted to his accounts after finding an unusually high number of log-ins and failed log-ins from an unfamiliar devices, locations, or networks. That information is tracked by Google, per the affidavit.

            Okay, so its more than just than Burner Phone X accessing these Google accounts/sessions. Yes, the same web sessions/cookies were also used by devices belonging to another Google account, that of Payne.

            Okay we’ve arrested Payne, could this just be an account/device hijacking and Payne be innocent? Well we also seized a rando cell phone with incriminating evidence on it. Could this have been planted?

            Messages from his burner phone, too, matched the number Payne had listed in his personal contact info while applying for unemployment benefits in February.

            So someone texted something at some point to text Burner Phone X. Who was that origin texter sending to Burner Phone X? Payne. So unlikely it was planted and more confirmation it was Payne sending the original threats.

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              26 days ago

              So they ask the VPN provider to provide the origin address of the VPN logins, and come back to a cell phone (network) provider

              A non-logging VPN provider should not be able to assist with this step.

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    28 days ago

    through “killings” of “owners, drivers, and occupants of Tesla Swasticars,”

    So if you got one before he went crazy, you’re dead. I don’t think we should be killing the consumer. Teasing relentlessly, sure.

    • UCIL19841202@lemmy.caOP
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      28 days ago

      The consumers and non-voters are responsible for Trump though. They’re just as guilty as their fat orange cult leader.

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        26 days ago

        Killing people for how they vote is killing democracy. Those MAGA lunatics aren’t your enemy, they’re your fellow citizens who fell victim to radical propaganda. When the Trump regime finishes their coup, they’re going to be suffering just like the rest of us.

        The way to solve the problem is to win them over, and show that a dictatorship is not good for America. Attacking Tesla and Musk is how you prevent other billionaires from supporting the MAGA hate cult, but it’s not how you win over MAGA voters. Taking it to the logical extreme by killing people isn’t going to make it work either.

        I don’t know how to win all the MAGA people back, but I know violence won’t do it. If anything, it’ll cement their existing views.

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          “Those MAGA lunatics aren’t your enemy, they’re your fellow citizens who fell victim to radical propaganda.” I live in Canada, they’re not “my” citizens. And as for not knowing how to win all the MAGA people back without violence, you simply can’t.

          Not a single person who split from the MAGA cult did so by being convinced by their fellow citizens. Not one. It is their decision and theirs alone. They would have to be personally impacted by the consequences of Trump’s policies in order to see the error of their ways. But even then those are very rare cases.

          Let’s look at the numbers. 62 million Americans voted for Trump in 2016, followed by 74 million in 2020 and 77 million last year. It only goes to show that the cult is growing in popularity. Again, you can’t win over these people with words. They can and most certainly will resort to murder and violence when backed into a corner. Fascism and violence are inseparable. And violent resistance to fascist violence doesn’t make you as bad as the fascist. Ask Bomber Harris.