• straightjorkin@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I read something that some people experienced the collapse of the Roman Empire as their local bridge going out and no one ever coming to fix it.

    I think a lot of Americans are going to experience the collapse of the American empire as their favorite treats never getting to the store shelves.

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      2 months ago

      My town’s bridge is in need of repair, which was to start this year but is now delayed because federal funding for it was cut. We’ll see…

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      2 months ago

      I think it’s highly optimistic to expect that, if anything it’s going to be more like the collapse of the Soviet empire, with weird successor state nonsense, some civil war, guns and violent crime everywhere, and those already in power going on a free for all kill each other and loot everything spree.

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        2 months ago

        I mean to say, for most Americans who are not news aware, the first signs will be that they simply can’t get their treats anymore.

        Even then, many of the more rural Americans will only ever have that experience. There’s not going to be guns and tanks rolling through Westboro, Wisconsin.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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          The problem is that existing power structures will try to transfer their power to the new system, and it isn’t that hard for them to do that. A new anarchist communistic structure will have to fight the CIA and the US military’s various fragments, if it goes as it did in the Warsaw Pact.

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            2 months ago

            Perhaps we will see a more localized anarchist sub-system purely out of necessity.

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          White power movments are literally waiting for this moment. The outliers are the accelerationists but there far far more that have been preparing for generations to exploit the power vacuum.

          A local anarchist group is no match for an well armed generation based organization.

          • NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            Why wouldn’t the anarchists be well armed too, especially if that’s an obvious necessity for your commune to survive? The only people in the US who refuse to touch a gun, even if their lives depend on it, are the centrist liberals.

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    2 months ago

    Now China won’t be able to destroy the US with their uh… affordable consumer goods! That’ll show 'em!

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    2 months ago

    I once met a guy who was in sales for a shipping container company. He said it was the easiest, most lucrative sales job in the world. There really wasn’t any sales at all, he just processed the orders that flowed in all day long. He got a fat commission on each one, and earned several commissions every single day. He was making BANK. He said it was nearly impossible to get a job doing that, it would require somebody to die to get their position.

    I guess he’s going to have a bad year, for a change.

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    2 months ago

    Oh look, trump did something good! accidentally good, I’m sure he didn’t intended that, but still

  • Thoralf Will@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Trump definitely did not intent to do that - but this is a good thing for the environment. If we end up in a global shrinkflation, this might berge worst way to reduce our carbon footprint, but it will probably be the long term consequence.

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    This could be the best thing the current administration did for the planet. No more shipping boats. It’s going to be really interesting in the next two months.

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        I’m just a poor smart person. As I understand, and probably all of us should…this is the time to go to the stores and buy up shit. Toilet paper, plastic bags and straws, Christmas toys and everything else that usually says made in China. From what I understand we had around 60 days a few weeks ago for the real shit show to begin. So I would expect stuff to get real interesting soon. That’s all. It’s a worst possible scenario…shit runs out and all heck breaks lose. I sincerely don’t know what to do. Should I just buy a good half a year worth of canned food? Should I do nothing? In don’t know. Its a cautious wait and see sort of feeling.

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      2 months ago

      Isn’t shipping via boat one of the most energy efficient forms of goods transport we have as a species?

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        Efficiency doesn’t matter if you’re shipping material for production halfway round the world and shipping those products halfway back just because rich people wanted to outsource to cheap labour, and overproduce cheap crap that falls apart way too fast so they can sell us the same cheap crap again a couple years later. It’s mostly waste. Some shipping is necessary, but I’d say a vast majority we could do without.

        Like I don’t believe for a second that these tarrifs will actually fix this problem because they’re just a big tantrum with zero strategy involved, but in an ideal world we would make a lot more locally and spend a lot less energy sending things all over the planet to make a handful of shareholders slightly higher margins.