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      13 days ago

      Better make sure you always have your passport and birth certificate on you. And even then, that might not protect you.

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        Won’t work. That kind of evidence would be presented at a trial. For your average ICE agent, your documentation, and lack of criminal record makes it obvious that you have ties to a powerful street gang who is hiding your crimes.

        This is literally what ICE has argued in the past few months.

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          Yeah. They literally said that that the lack of evidence is actually the evidence, and that it is proof of a hyperintelligent criminal who has lead a life of crime without ever being caught. And that is why they have no criminal records… because they are criminals who haven’t been caught yet!

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        Better make sure you always have your passport and birth certificate on you.

        Won’t save you from an ICE that’s happy to tear them up and deport you anyway. This isn’t a legalist regime. Residential “legality” is just a talking point to justify totalitarianism.

        If you believe a piece of paper is going to be a shield against a bunch of thugs with guns, you’re going to be in for a hard and sharp awakening when people you know and love end up on the next round of deportation lists.

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    So due process is no longer a thing.

    Got it.

    Hey Maga when Trump turns this on you and you piss and moan about no due process… My response will be this

    🖕

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    A hearing is part of deportation.

    Without Due Process it’s literally just human trafficking, which is a felony in every single state.

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      Without due process Trump would be in jail, so he’s very much aware if it’s importance.

      “Cannot give every person it wants to deport a trial” can be freely translated to “nobody would get deported”.

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    Curious if this argument also works for other situations? “I didn’t file my taxes, because it would take too long”.

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    That’s such a coincidence. Some guillotining could be done without trials too!

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      “THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

      ― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court

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    Key words there being “it wants to deport”.

    The problem isn’t the trials, it’s the selection criteria.

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    As someone outside the US, I was told that people were very keen on keeping lots of guns to react in case the government tried to pull this kind of shit. When’s the part where they react?

    I’m sarcastic; I know why it isn’t happening, and realistically it would be a terrible thing, but, you know, we’re living in the weirdest time.

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    Whattt? Is Trump saying that the US of A, the “greatest” country in the world, can’t engage in its secondmost favourite activity which is literally suing people?

    Not picking favourites, but the Biden administration, not even the Clinton administration, had this “skill issue”.

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      Be careful, “greatest” has never been a good match with USA. Never. My ears hurt when I hear that.

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    Add it to the list of impeachable charges, we will give orange man a trial regardless.

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      Imagine impeachment actually being relevant.

      You forgot his first term didn’t you? Lol

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          Records don’t mean shit when the ruling party is actively destroying records of things they don’t like. History is written by the victors, and it’s happening in real-time right now.