What if wages for everyone in a company are regularly voted on by the rest of the company? For example, if the manager isn’t doing their job, their wages are lowered by vote. If the manager tries to lower the wages of the workers to a horribly low level, it could either a) be overruled by the majority, or b) the manager’s wages are lowered suit, pressuring them to increase it.

This is probably a really stupid idea that is extremely prone to corruption, but why?

edit: yep this really is a stupid idea

edit 2: someone mentioned that this is kinda like trade unions, where workers can negotiate pay, but in a really horrible method where it becomes a “popularity contest”.

I do think that someone else’s idea of keeping the every employee’s wages some % of the manager/CEO/whatever’s wages so that they aren’t incentivised to keep inflating their wages is pretty decent.

  • shaggyb@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I agree that this a colossally stupid idea.

    However, it has the virtue of not being every other word I read online. For the novelty of it, I thank you.

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    13 days ago

    The very premise of this assumes that everyone is aware of what everyone else’s job is including all of their responsibilities, that they can objectively judge how well they do their job, that they will not base their decisions based on personal or identity biases (particularly against protected classes), that they have an understanding or even basic knowledge of company budget and financials, and that they can be trusted to properly weigh the financial health of the company with the relatively value each individual’s contributions and the desire for one’s own personal gain.

    I would argue that almost no person in an company bigger than 10 people is capable of most (if any) of these. Not that existing company structures are always great at all of these, nor are they usually incentivized to pay people their true worth, but the system you proposed would likely lead to massive issues in any company. Financial issues, personal issues, etc. Even if a company like this were to survive, you would likely see rampant turnover for women, minorities, young people, and anyone else that is likely to be under paid by the might of the majority that believes they are worth less than their white male seniors. Likewise, the “nice” guy manager that does do his job in the slightest but is fun to hang out with is more likely to get a raise than the serious managers who actually keep the company working and on profitable endeavors, which is likely to lose everyone their jobs when the company is no longer profitable. There are more problems with this, but that should be enough to see the pitfalls here.

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    14 days ago

    Holy shit any company I’ve worked at has been political enough. This would be absurdly detrimental to mental health…

    While in concept I agree. I would rather see a wage tier approach where the lowest paid employee can never be less than say 10% of the CEO (total compensation) then managesr say 40% (managers make no more that 2.5x the lowest) and executives 25%. Something like that.

    I would love that ensrined in law. Maybe not those numbers but fuck it, make it a party platform and set it at the government level. And don’t give the CEO’s some kind of consulting loophole.

    I say this as someone that makes a well above average wage.

  • scarabic@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    The biggest problem I see is that people don’t always understand others’ jobs and how to judge if they are doing them well. I know this will be unpopular but managers are the key example here. Everyone thinks they know who the good and bad managers are but until you’ve been one, you dont understand their job to truly know more than who you like and who you don’t like. That’s no way to decide anyone’s pay.