Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

Edit3: sort by controversal

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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    I thought of a few stupid things, but everyone talking about kids made me think of this one.

    I am strongly against Trickle down suffering.

    “I put up with this terrible thing when I was your age, and even though we could stop it from happening to anyone, it’s important that we make YOU suffer through it too.”

    Hazing, bullying, unfair labor laws, predatory banking and more. It’s really just the “socially acceptable” cycle of abuse.

  • traches@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    Absolute free speech is overrated. You shouldn’t be able to just lie out your ass and call it news.

    The fact that the only people who had any claim against Fox for telling the Big Lie was the fucking voting machine company over lost profits tells you everything you need to know about our country

    • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      While I’m tempted to agree, the big problem here is that if the government can decide that some speech is illegal, they can use that to silence people they don’t like.

      Obviously the system we’ve got now in the US isn’t working, but we need to tread carefully when giving the government power to decide what is or isn’t the “right beliefs”.

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    i think that institutions should be respected.

    It’s the number one problem in american politics right now, everything we are currently experiencing, is from people treating politics like a toy. Rather than an institution.

    It’s so incredibly hard to state how critically important it is for the functioning of society, that the structures running our society, are respected.

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      29 days ago

      While you are explicitly correct, the implication is that institutions deserve respect by virtue of being institutions. Respect should be earned, or rather, given until proven unworthy. I refuse to respect an institution that fails to acknowledge the sanctity of life, much less fulfills the needs of the people it governs.

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        28 days ago

        Yeah, the ATF for instance. Anyone knowledgeable about the ATF does not trust it, after Waco and Ruby Ridge

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    1 month ago

    I believe that the more wealth a person has, the more likely it is that they abused and harmed others to achieve that wealth. Therefore, the more wealthy a person is, the less I trust and respect them.

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      1 month ago

      Mine is related: I believe in an estate or “death” tax, at least on the ultra-wealthy. These people have exploited workers their whole lives to “earn” it, and almost certainly used unethical loopholes to hide it and keep it from being taxed, so at least recover the taxes before it’s dropped in the lap of their heir. They won’t even personally be negatively impacted by it since they’re already gone. Sure, the next-of-kin gets less, but that’s the whole point; they did even less to actually earn it!

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    Animals don’t exist for us to use. They aren’t ours. Outside of survival scenarios, it’s wrong to eat animals or take things like milk or eggs from animals. It’s fucked up.

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      Extend that to plants and mineral resources, and you’ll be both fully moral and dead.

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          That hasn’t been proven yet, and plants and trees do have sensations and awareness of others around them.

          Also I don’t understand how you can reconcile your opinion about animals when they hunt each other, play with their preys, and are sometimes cannibalistic.

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            Why impose human concepts of ethics onto animals that survive based on instinct? Humans are omnivores, and in places where we have access to Lemmy, we also have access to things like grocery stores and farmers markets. We don’t need to eat animals to be healthy, nor do we need to eat any other animal products. We do so out of tradition, or familiarity, and then justify the horrible way we treat other life because we like the taste. Plant life having sensations isn’t equivalent to the sensations that we know that animals have, and the suffering we know farming animals causes. And rather frankly, eating animals requires growing more plants and killing more plants than just eating the plants.

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              So you have moved other animals into your circle of respect but not plants. You still draw a line somewhere.

              And outside of that line, you chomp down with the crushers evolution has placed in your mouth

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    Housing as an investment is wrong.

    The price of basic human needs should not be tied to the rise and fall of the stock market, nor should ones retirement depend on the hyper inflated values of houses. 500K+ for a small house is absolute price gouging bullshit, regardless of location.

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    It’s okay to call stupid people stupid to their face - them, their ideas, whatever it is that they’re doing dumb. In the U.S. we’ve gone too far over on the “tolerate all people and their views” which has allowed fascism and MAGAts to gain far too much power - putting idiots in their place is (or at least would have been) the best way put it back where it belongs.

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      I think there’s a difference between not calling someone an idiot and tolerating their bad ideas and actions though. I agree people need to be stopped, and not tolerated, but when the only answer is insulting them with various names like idiot or nazi, all that ends up happening is they keep their toxic and destructive ideas hidden from the public, and then band with others labelled idiot and nazi, until they feel comfortable in a group to express their rhetoric without fear.

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        At which point you make such groups illegal and start investigating and prosecuting, officially and not.

        Yeah, I know that won’t get us to a state of educated well-meaning humanity caring for all life. But I can’t deny seeing some assholes getting their own medicine will make me smile for some time

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        Irl, I don’t think infinite economic growth is reasonable, feasible, or practical. There’s only so much land, only so much space in the world. Once we leave Earth, that changes, but not until then.

        We should stop developing new plots of land and start building up. If a plot of land is already developed, it’s fair game. But no new plots of land.

        I’m tired of seeing every empty field and forest getting bulldozed, although that’s not unpopular.


        On Lemmy, I think illegal immigrants should be deported as a default. If they commit serious crimes, sure, jail them. But the vast majority should just get deported. And claiming asylum when you get caught is abusing the asylum system and ruining it for people who actually need it.

        We should also heavily reduce the amount of legal immigrants too. We take in a fifth of the world’s immigrants, and we do not have a fifth of the world’s population. Immigration doesn’t really help the common man, it’s used to suppress wages. It’s a kind of a selfish thing, because more immigrants means less fields and woods, but immigration isn’t helping anyone but the rich either.

        Abolish the ATF and the NFA. People have the right to defend themselves regardless of what the government says.

        Protective tariffs like the Chicken Tax are good for domestic industry. This is a feature not a bug. I was thinking this long before Trump got in.

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          Immigration helps the common man by filling low level positions that most natives will not take. A lot of immigrants don’t know the local language and/or the local culture, so it is fair that they take free, unwanted jobs.

          Further, there are a lot of protections for the workers, including immigrants, meaning wages and working conditions do not fall below acceptable standards. Immigrants strengthen the core pillars of industry, which might even lead to an increase in productivity and better conditions. They contribute to the economy and help pay public services which benefits the broader community.

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            The reason why native people don’t take shit jobs is the bad wages (also lack of benefits). You pay truckers five bucks a mile, suddenly every trucker is native born. You pay ditch diggers thirty bucks an hour, watch all the guys turn up.

            Guess what happens if you take all the cheap labor away? The companies don’t just shut down, they start paying more. It’s how Unions work.