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  • Pretty good analysis, for sure.

    I agree that just dumping progressive policies on top of that is a recipe for failure. I don’t know the best way forward, but I’m sure a better way forward is possible, and I’m also sure that existing Dem policy platforms haven’t managed it… I suspect the answer lies in embracing and communicating different core values, but I’m not sure which combination would work with (or against) America’s crazy slant toward individualism…

    FWIW, I DO think the brat vibe was a good thing to try, even if it didn’t pan out. I wonder if it might have with a man (e.g. dark Brandon vibes)…



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    Don’t ask me why not

    Seems like this is something the democrats really need to put a lot of work into figuring out. But it doesn’t really seem like the mainstream of the DNC is all that interested. It seems like they think they already have it worked out, and that people should just follow along…

    Re: “progressive” and “socialism”, sure, I get you. I think that there’s potentially a LOT of scope for simple reframing that would resonate though, like Gary’s Economics’ “tax wealth not work” frame. But I don’t think the DNC would pick that up, because too many of them are wealthy, or mates with wealthy people…




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    Perhaps. Personally I think the causality is the other way around. If the left within the Dems had more influence, the party would be more inspiring, and more people would get out to vote…

    But yeah, either way, unless you’re inside the dems making that happen (and that’s hard, because the neoliberals within the dems have lots of money and power), then you don’t have much influence over electoral politics. Better and easier to get involved in other forms of politics, IMO. And work on the voting stuff when you’re near an election, if you want.




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    Mmm… I would have voted democrats, if I was american (we have a similar situation here in aus).

    But I’m under no illusion that they will save us. Both of our centrist parties (Dems, Labor) are still completely on board with neoliberalism and are still expanding environmentally destructive industries. Yes, they are clearly less fucked than the right wing parties, but they also aren’t going to save us. We need to do more than just vote.