We don’t even have to bring in epigenetics into this. You spend your time oppressing and abusing those you seeas lesser than, that will carry over into your behaviour as a person. Infamously cops go home and beat their wives.

I mean, humans who work in slaughterhouses experience mental anguish and other adverse effects. Imagine inflicting that kind of pain to humans. I think even prison guards, who could somehow logically justify what they do, also experience mental health problems. No wonder many of them “break” and become abusive monsters. But then how can one be an abusive monster 9-5 and then “switch off”? One can’t, it’s now 24/7.

The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.

Precisely!

“People who are descended from people…” makes it sound like eugenics.

Perhaps I should have written “People who were raised by people that…”?

If you think people from Africa are worth less than people in Europe, then what motivation do you have to teach your kids the opposite? You may even keep your racism to yourself, but you can’t change your actions. A little European kid notices that their parents don’t hang out with anyone else but their own countrymen for example. That’s enough for the kid to view everyone else as “the other”.

So it isn’t so much genetics, but what children are exposed to. If a parent small talks and laughs with random countrymen you see around, but then keeps it short with foreigners and doesn’t have the same rapport, children pick up on that.

But superiority and racism are something that’s taught.

Yes. And those Nazis or whatever who have kids, they’re not educating them in racism every day? Doesn’t even have to be “education” but just how they refer (or not refer) to other people. Children are very good at learning by watching. That is how we learn to live in society.

the woman who avenged Che Guevara was the daughter of a nazi

An exception that proves the rule?

Not even talking about Americans only.

Look at Europe. A couple of years ago it was “refugees welcome” and if you weren’t for letting every single refugee in you were a Nazi (fine by me). But now all of a sudden, it is the liberal, “left-wing” thing not to want immigrants, and to kick them out.

It is the “social-democrats” in Europe who are spearheading the anti-immigrant efforts, want to move asylum-seekers to concentration camps in Africa, pay warlords in Libya to stop the immigrant boats, support building a wall on the EU border (ironic, isn’t it?), support sinking, returning and otherwise stopping migrant boats in the Mediterranean, and so on.

Anarchists too have shown themselves to be nothing more than followers of the dominant ideology. If the state says “refugees welcome” then anarchists say “refugees welcome”. Now that the liberal European states have changed their tune, coincidentally so have the “anarchists”.

Honestly, I cannot remember the last time I saw a “refugees welcome” sticker, banner or protest. Goes to show how much these liberal NGOs control the narrative and various “organic movements”

I got prompted to it by trying to reconcile a contradiction that I experienced. As an immigrant in Western/Northern Europe I think to myself “How can these people be polite to me, yet not see me as a human being equal to them?”

The conclusion I came up with is that because of laws and societal pressure, in public they will go through the motions, they’ll do what is expected and required. But as soon as you leave that space of expectations even by a tiny bit, then it is full mask off. And they don’t care, because in their “rule-based order” as long as you follow the rules, you can do whatever you want once those rules don’t apply.

So as someone who is ND, this has been bothering me a lot. I am not surprised when I meet duplicity and hypocrisy in an individual person, but that it exists on a national level, that is surprising to me.

you have to rebuild your social life from scratch or just put up with being surrounded by evil assholes.

Guess which one most people choose…

Thanks for the response

are we talking about wounded nervous systems and their consequences

Definitely this. It’s one of the reasons why Nazis invented gas chambers, because they saw the psychological damage murder inflicted on their soldiers. They didn’t want there to be tens of thousands of mentally damaged maniacs in their new Reich. So they had Jews from the camp lead other Jews into the gas chambers and they had Jews pull them out and stuff them into crematoria. This way the German soldiers would not witness/experience all of the horrors they were inflicting. But gas chambers are unique in history, all other times humans committed genocide or atrocities they did it “by hand”.

Though these surely have some overlap, I don’t think they are quite the same

I don’t think they’re the same. But for example a slave owner, regardless of how they treat their slaves are still a slave owner. Their way of thinking, speaking, viewing the world will be passed onto their children, then that will probably get passed onto their children.

I can’t think of examples in the West when people were forced to confront their past. It’s always “oh, that was my dad/grandad, it has nothing to do with me”.

You get a situation where people’s thinking and worldview hasn’t changed significantly, yet they believe they are somehow changed just because some time has passed.