Ah see, there’s the problem. I don’t think it’s like Newton’s Theory of Gravitation. The rate of profit to fall isn’t some ironclad law that’s applicable in all cases 100% of the time. Cowbee already conceded various ways it could not be true (lack of competition such as through monopoly, exploitation of workers, globalization and imperialism, cartels, trusts, etc).

It seems to describe the natural tendency of a system-wide phenomenon (assuming increasing automation and existing competition in capitalism but nothing really else), so you’d have to consider a macro view of the entire system over a long period of time for it to work. It’s like how you can’t say one section of the world has been getting colder or staying the same for a couple years and thus climate change has been debunked, as you not only need to look at the whole planet but then the next couple decades as well.

So the next company has a brief increase in rate of profit, but then taking a more extended look at the system, everyone will probably switch suppliers to the cheaper wood and someone is going to lower their prices, forcing everyone else to (barring one of the scenarios above).

You can probably counter climate change temporarily, too. For example, dumping increasingly larger ice cubes in the ocean every year.

But ya, the analogy isn’t completely one to one, it was just another good example of a a high level system-wide tendency that must be examined over a whole system and over a longer period of time that I thought most people reading would be familiar with.

I heard it’s supposed to be super stealthy and really smart, so I guess they didn’t expect to even have to do that lol. Otherwise, we could spend less money and use the older less stealthy and technologically advanced jets.

I think that’s Richard Wolff’s whole thing. I think he’s communist? At least socialist.

Except how are you going to change society without some form of power, which forces you to use the state? I wouldn’t call it utopian what they were describing, while anarchism to me sounds more utopian. Without the power to defend yourselves, the power of capitalists, current, former, or foreign will destroy you.

I consider myself a socialist, but shit, I live in capitalism too and have bills to pay lol.

Owenites?

So for a concrete example, if you end up in the worker coop for a finance company and own a slice of that, or work in Microsoft and are an employee-owner of that, you’d end up a lot better than if you worked in a fast food restaurant you partly owned. Is that kind of what you’re saying?

It sounds like it’s similar to saying climate change isn’t real because the weather was colder one day, when in actuality the theory of global warming is describing an ongoing process and tendency of the temperature to increase in the overall system overall long period of time, it’s not a day to day weather phenomenon you can describe with a singular slice of time.

They said NHL lol

Eh, the community is huge on Reddit so clearly the fans exist (and I’m one but just took a big social media break for awhile so that didn’t help). Lemmy just needs more people with more diverse interests.

Lol that’s such a Nazi thing to say. There is no battlefield. There’s the settlers taking people’s homes and the concentration camp they’ve put their victims in. There’s the genociders, supplied with the most advanced weapons in the world, and the genocidees, who have been abandoned by everyone but Yemen. And I hope Israel falls before they can complete their Final Solution.

There were some things she did early in the primary that kind of inspired me tbh. I really liked the Walz VP pick, especially when it looked like she was going to pick a more conservative Dem like Shapiro the Zionist or Mark Kelly. She also had a more youthful energy to contrast against Biden’s clearly aging and tired energy during his campaign. But then they squandered it by listening to the consultants and focus groups trying to triangulate to get Haley Republicans or whatever they were trying to do.

IDF has lied about command centers below hospitals forever and continue to do so. Their word means less than nothing. If he was killed in the hospital, it’s because he was getting treatment. If he was under the hospital it’s because tunnels are everywhere throughout Gaza because it’s the only wait to move or go anywhere without getting bombed and killed. The area is super concentrated and full of people because Israel keeps taking land and rounding them in smaller and smaller areas, like a concentration camp.

And if killing civilians is okay if they’re mixing with soldiers, then Israel deserves a thousand October 7th’s. They killed dozens more, including wounded, children, and pregnant to get one guy in this one attack. Comparing that that to the hundreds of thousands Israel has killed and virtually everyone in it being an IDF member or supporting of them, then the state itself and every genocidal piece of shit in it needs to die in the same hell fire they’re raining on Gazans. This is your twisted logic.

Oh that is kinda sad.

Only if you consider history starting in October 7th.

They poop on heads though, which is negative points for me.

Biden didn’t do enough to stop it? Dude, he actively facilitated it. He gave them weapons and money, including fast tracking a bunch, vetoed any resolution to help at the UN, criticized the ICJ and ICC for trying to hold them accountable, etc. Trump is just continuing Biden’s genocidal legacy with the Trumpian twist of wanting to take the land and turn it into hotels and resorts.

Thanks! I would super appreciate that. I found that version, too, and got super hopeful when I did. Imagine my surprise when I played it and it turned out to be Chinese lol.

It should be in the Channel 4 streaming service you’d think, but it isn’t for some reason. It’s actually a great example of the role piracy has to play in archiving media and data.

There’s a channel 4 documentary that sounded interesting from just a couple years ago, like 2022 or something like that, that I can’t seem to find where Prue from The Great British Bake-Off is tracking down the family of her adopted child (I watch a lot of GBBO, hence why it sounded interesting). It’s so recent and Prue is so famous in the UK, I am surprised how difficult it has been to track down.