Why 16? why not 14 or 18 if you are that kind of a dick. Like I understand that some people ask their childeren to pay rent once they get a fulltime job. Heck I have heard of parents who didn’t need to money from their kids so they put it in a savings account in the kdis name and gave it to them when they needed to buy a house). I also know somebody who was 10k short of buying an appartement, he had to pay rent to help his parents stay afloat.

Probably Europe, eastern Europe is already pretty populair for that market and otherwise countries like The Netherlands where sex is well normal and we don’t treat it otherwise.

https://archive.is/ir8Uu

I tried a couple versions of Excel, but I was unable to get it to work sadly.

And that’s why you need to have a governance structure to prevent that BS. Putting a non profit above it with 3 people who together have to make decisions that to them seem to be the best for the mission will make it really hard to start being a Nazi al besudden.

The US is not the same as Switzerland lol

So Andy Yen is Hitler now?

Well yes, but Proton is still located in Switzerland and has a decent governance structure in play with a non profit. He cannot just kill the company by switching it’s core USP

Because his power is limited? He cannot just change policy on a dime

Unless the governance structure agrees to it they can’t and even the we vaj sue them for abusing a Swiss non profit

Yeah a lot of people fan over celeberties politicians or CEO’s, but at the same time a lot of people also hate those same people for various reasons. And people believe in bad against bad and not even the law anymore and don’t believe in second changes or forgiveness.

We call that, the internet.

They legally can’t though that’s the thing people are missing

A general increase in old person pension?

Every coin has two sides

I can say the same thing about you mentioning god. Religious conservatives have been an issue in the US (and outside the US as well) for years. But I am not going to call you out publicly for doing that either.

Now fascists are different, but agreeing with a more economic focussed standpoint doesn’t mean you have sympathy for fascists. I am progessive-center right aligned in politics, what are you gonna call me a Nazi? The US politics don’t lend for people to have specific directions with their votes.

Proton the company and the foundation are still on the consumer side of the while discussion and besides a deleted Tweet that aint gonna happen.

I am sorry, but I find it so absurd that people can literally kick somebody or a company down because of something relatively small. Most companies can be found dirt on, what are you going to do? I am just saying that there is more to the story than just calling somebody a MAGA supporter which these days is basically calling somebody a Nazi

Proton’s official account also deleted the comment and Yen created a new account for himself so Proton did what eas really required by any rule book or whatever you wanna call it in situations like this.

So no I wouldn’t say Proton agreed on it.

Call him out for his tweet or Protons post fair, but that doesnt him a MAGA supporter. It just makes him a supporter of a bullshit statement. And it definitely doesn’t make Proton MAGA. Nuances are needed to make it so people can have their own opinions formed and we don’t get a black or white/good or bad view on the world.

It says a lot to you, but not to a lot of people. Stop barading the company for your own opinion

Well yeah he did support a Trump statement and went out of his way to do it. Later stupidly doubled down on it by using the official response.

But, and this might be because I am not American and live in a country where politics aren’t so black and white, but I fail to see how that means you are a MAGA nut/Trump supporter or what not. Especially not because he hasn’t taken action (will be hard to do anyway since he is not American).

And there is a strong governance structure with Andy Yen only having 33% power on final says since he is 1 of 3 people in the Proton Foundation which is the shareholder of the Proton company.

I don’t brush anything under the rug. I actively shared the Tweet that started this hole BS.

Well fair, maybe I should have shown their response. They doubled down on it, but they also deleted it. Both of the American parties are a shitshow, but then again America is just corrupt anyway. Trump didn’t even have 50% of the votes.

Saying “Proton = Maga” or whatever doesn’t shed light on the issue either. In the end I believe more in actions than words (and i have faith in a decent governance structure) and I believe that people should take their own conclusion on the matter based on the Tweet and well yeah I should start linking the Reddit post again.

The moment Proton itself starts to fuck things over I am out of there as well, but currently I prepaid just before this came to light, but I use my own domain so mhe

You mentioned almost nothing? Tuta can even more easily change their privacy policy. Not saying Tuta isn’t the right choice, but it’s worse than a lot of people make you think it is