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Cake day: July 31st, 2023

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  • If the parties involved wanted a clear moral solution there’s a very clear precedent in the form of South Africa’s truth and reconciliation process. For that to happen, though, Israelis would have to be willing to acknowledge Palestinians’ fundamental right to exist, and as I noted above they’re currently opposed to that by a 2:1 ratio, and Palestinians do not have the power or tools to force the issue. The international community would have to drag Israel to the negotiation table kicking and screaming, and as long as they’ve got the US on their side that’s not going to happen. Realistic political solutions seem remote right now, sure – but if you’re just talking about a moral one, it’s shockingly simple.


  • If I could pick a nit or two, Jewish people internationally are not responsible for the actions of the Israeli government. Israeli citizens might be – and while Netanyahu and Likud are extremely controversial in Israel, they do represent a significant and very vocal portion of the Israeli voting public. Worse, general Israeli sentiment towards Palestine and Palestinians is not good – 60% of Israelis still support the war after 18 months of wholesale civilian slaughter in Gaza. 70% support the ongoing settlement and annexation of the West Bank. The positions of the major Israeli parties on Palestinian lives and rights differ from Netanyahu’s “kill 'em all” approach mostly in degree rather than in kind.

    To put the rotten cherry on the shit cake, Israel has one of the highest rates of dual citizenship in the world, with ~10% of Israelis holding two passports. Unlike the other countries you named, a significant fraction of Israelis could just leave if they no longer wanted to co-sign their government’s genocide in Gaza. I am perfectly willing to hold the Israeli people responsible for the actions of their government, moreso than I am for the other countries you mentioned. The ethnic cleansing of Palestine was not forced on them against the popular will. They chose this, and continue to choose this, by a large majority.