Seems to be a division here based on the (ex)Trumpanzee’s sincerity vs not.

My thought is who gives a shit if they’re sincere? The goal isn’t to convert them, it’s to defeat Trump and people like Trump - if a former Trump voter can be used against him, I have no issues at all with at least pretending to accept that that person is having an authentic denazification. Whether or not they’re truly capable of self reflection is kinda moot

Pixar’s “Buy n’ Large” and “Allinol” are pretty clever.

On the flip side, titles like this will help people to not forget.

ICE aside, ain’t nobody got money for dat.

Easy to assume malice when we’re surrounded by it irl. I do that shit all the time too… we’re all just fed up and exhausted.

Judging by your post history, it looks like I agree with you on nearly everything, except apparently when it comes to splitting hairs over how much faith we have in the average American to actually get up and get their hands dirty to take our country back.

…and honestly, I’m a little jealous of that optimism. The past decade has made me cynical as fuck. You’re right to call me out for defeatism. This all seems so fucking hopeless to me, but I really ought to keep that shit to myself - not like I’d be doing anyone a favor by ‘winning’ them over.

Weird thing for a Nazi to say.

Now that’s a testable hypothesis!

*clicks pen*

…you sure? I think he’d make decent fertilizer.

Well, I specified the majority of voters for a reason. When a third of population looks at the possibility of someone as evil as Trump taking power, and are so unmoved by that possibility that they can’t even be bothered to so much as color in a quarter-inch rectangle in opposition to it, that’s a fucking problem.

Militias to protect protesters is one thing; militias to enforce the demands being made by the protesters is what we need.

Look at current events here: we’ve got the 50501 protests happening nationwide and frequently - nothing changes. There were protests constantly during Trump’s first go at raping the Constitution - nothing changed. There were protests against Biden and Harris over their support for the genocide on Gaza - nothing changed. This has been a recurring theme for the almost 4 decades I’ve been stuck in this fucking dumpster fire.

You know what did get shit done? Luigi put three bullets into a malicious healthcare CEO’s back, and we immediately saw some reform (nothing huge, but some). Teslas and Tesla dealerships started getting burned to the ground, and now (supposedly - hasn’t happened yet) Elon is backing down from his role as chief Nazi. The republicans carried out a literal insurrection; they now control the presidency, Congress, and the Judiciary. Any semblance of checks and balances, and they just arrest the judge.

Point being: good or bad, violence is the only thing that works here. We’ve dipped our toes into it, but we haven’t gone full guillotine, which is what desperately needs to happen. Protests aren’t going to accomplish shit until the ruling class has a healthy fear for what happens when the protesters’ demands are ignored.

Oklahoma wants to teach–

Yeah I’m gonna stop you right there. Teaching isn’t really one of Oklahoma’s priorities, lol.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

50s dude could uno-reverse card that shit by breaking out the slang from his own teen years. Get all the gens conversing this way in one thread just for pure chaos-sake.

…the fuck are you talking about? The majority of US voters wanted this shitstorm. This isn’t like two people oppressing the country - the problem is that the majority of us land somewhere on the spectrum between stupid and evil, and that’s a MUCH larger problem than just Trump.

Protests in the US have lost their teeth ever since the civil rights movement. Nowadays we don’t have the Black Panthers standing by with rifles to enforce the efficacy of broader non-violent side of the movement; and so long as they remain nonviolent, they’ll continue to be ignored. We protest all the time - it doesn’t accomplish shit here.

The French do it all the time. Are you saying you’re not as capable as those you call “cheese eating surrender monkeys”? You keep making fun of them, but if you don’t act, they’ll be making fun of you.

Again, what the actual fuck are you talking about? I haven’t made fun of the French a single time. 100% we’re not as capable as the French - the French are absolute badasses who respond to oppression by literally making heads roll. That’s why protests there work - the ruling class knows what happens next if they ignore the protests. And cheese is fucking delicious. I’d love if we emulated the French - we should start with the guillotines and end with fondue.

That’s not what the previous poster said though, nor is that what ‘keen’ means.

I’m especially keen for someone to step up and do the deed, but that has nothing to do with my enjoyment, and goes way beyond just the morality of what’s happening (although that part of the situation is also fucked). But no, my country is under attack, and I want that attack to stop. And in every thread like this one where we express frustration with the people whose job is to stop the attack just standing idle and letting it happen; some jackass always chimes in with “well why don’t you do it??” as though it’s hypocritical to tell people to do their job. It’s not.

Plenty of reasons to ask others to risk their lives without being willing to risk your own.

At the most basic level, that’s how specializations work: do you whip out your own drill when your tooth hurts? Or do you ask someone with the means and expertise to get the job done to do it for you?

If you’re a US tax payer, then you’re actively paying a shit ton of people to risk their lives on your behalf. All of those people swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all threats foreign and domestic - they are literally oath bound to engage Donald Trump the same way they do any other enemy of the US. Why shouldn’t we ask those people to do their fucking job?

The 2nd Amendment is a last-ditch effort kind of thing, but the longer we get nothing but crickets from the previous paragraph the more relevant it becomes. Fortunately (in this very specific context at least) the US is stuffed with absolute enthusiasts for the 2nd Amendment - why condemn someone for asking one of those people to act on their passion? These fuckers’ wet dream is to swoop in with their trusty ol’ boom stick and make themselves a national hero by slaying a home-grown tyrant. So go on, Cletus: make us proud ya wraskly ol’ cowboy!

In any case, we have a fuck ton of people either obligated or enthused to be the one to single-handedly step up and solve the Trump problem. As someone who’s neither obligated nor enthused, I don’t see any issue with calling on either of those two crowds to put their money where their mouth is, knowing full well that I’m not personally willing to risk my own life or freedom.

You mean North Mexico?

Telling the passengers of the Titanic to grab a bucket after it snapped in half is not as helpful as you might think.

What about kings and emperors?

Witcher 2 opening scene comes to mind. (time stamped)

Maybe after religion has been abolished.

That would be in line with both the headline and his role model from the 1940s with the moustache.