For the record, I think Bibi and most of his government belong in prison. Bibi is a fascist - but so are most Palestinians, for lack of a better word. I think Israel (as well as America, Europe and the Arab states) should pay reparations to all Palestinians who can demonstrate that they personally have been permanently displaced from land that Israelis have settled on, because it IS a humanitarian crisis - partly of their own creation.

But I’m also realistic about arab/islamic nationalism, and how those states treat their ethnic and religious minorities. I support Kurdish independence for the same reason. I support the Christians in Lebanon - I went to school with some in the early 2000’s who were forced from their homes by the same “freedom fighters” who make common cause with Hamas today. Being a non-arab, non-muslim in the Muslim/Arab world is a mortal danger.

There is no scenario where Israel doesn’t exist, and Jewish people in the middle east aren’t subjected to exactly the kind of genocide that you’re accusing Israelis of perpetrating and has been perpetrating against Jews and Christians in living memory, to say nothing of the last thousand years. Some might even call these accusations projection.

If that makes me literally Hitler, then we really don’t have anything to discuss. My side keeps winning. Total Israeli capitulation isn’t ever going to happen. Israel is here to stay. When certain parties finally accept that reality, maybe we can start making moves towards a lasting peace, but that peace will never include simply throwing open the gates and letting the barbarians sack Israel as they did in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Nigeria, Yemen, Sudan and elsewhere.

Why don’t you mind your own fuckin business?

Everyone in this thread: I want Israel shattered, and it’s people cast into the sea!

Half the Jews on earth: OK, well we’re not going to let that happen to us without a fight. In fact, since you all keep trying, we’re going to take proactive steps to make that goal basically impossible.

Everyone in this thread: why do you love genocide so much?

Statements like this only further justify the Israeli security apparatus.

Ronald Reagan? The actor?

He won the popular vote. Step foot outside an urban area and you’ll see that his popular support isn’t just an illusion.

There’s a floor of around 38% of Americans who are going to hold that line to the death. They’ve lost friends, family, and businesses over their stance already and haven’t budged. This has been going on for ten years now. They’re in it til the end.

Their brains should be studied for science. How are they not crushed under the weight of their own contradiction?