https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Roberts

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Johnson

I mean, nobody has to reply on a public internet forum.

Unless you are being forced to reply…wait…that would explain a lot.

Ok, if you are being forced to reply to internet messages against your will, try and add some sort of code in the replies so we can try get you out of that environment, it sounds awful.

Also electrons don’t die, don’t be silly.

There is, of course, the electron cycle of transmigration of states.

It’s like they don’t even teach basic electrotheism in school anymore, smh.

oh no, an internet report !

this might even go on my permanent internet record, egads.

Thanks

So I’ll be upfront and say i don’t know shit about socialism as a concept.

Do you have any examples of socialism that has worked (or is currently working) at modern nation scales ?

I’m genuinely not picking a fight, just looking for examples to read up on.

Dammit, missed the code tags

@page "/lemmy-reply"
@using HypocrisyManifest

<p>Complaint about bold assumptions of individuals values</p>
<p style="font-weight:bold">Bold assumption about all of humanity</p>
<p>Assertion of personal perspective</p>
<p>Further complaints about assumptions</p>
<p>Name calling/Labelling</p>

<Complaint about bold assumptions of individuals values>

< Bold assumption about all of humanity >

<Assertion of personal perspective>

<Further complaints about assumptions>

<Name calling/Labelling>

i think we are mostly in agreement, though I’ll address a couple points of contention on my side.

I think likening racism to political centrism, which is, again, what you are agreeing with, is not an apt comparison. You’re agreeing with a commenter above that said “the middle ground between racism and not racism is 50% racism”

I wasn’t necessarily trying to equate racism with political centrism, i was using that comment as an example of how the idea of ‘centrism’ isn’t always a viable or practical one.

it could just as easily have been “The middle ground between wet and dry is 50% wet”.

Then if you happen to be a centrist, if you happen to be in the middle, as I’ve met many centrists, they exist. And again, it is probably the most viable of all of the political ideologies, if not for corruption and political manipulation to herd the population into either Democrat or Republican sides

But you can see that this reads " This would be the best option if it was possible, but it isn’t, currently " ?

I agree with the sentiment, though i disagree that the optimal location is the “centre” , as i said before.

And it seems you agree given the follow up about the partially siding with trump being ridiculous.

As i was saying before i don’t think centrism is a good label for what you are describing because it isn’t really the centre of anything, it’s some other thing on a whole spectrum of things.

I think that using the label “centrism” hurts any argument significantly more than it helps and coming up with some other , more accurate way of describing your position would greatly benefit any discussion around that area.

But labeling and categorising things is hard, especially in a concise and descriptive manner and as you say modern political conditioning tends towards thinking in rigid boxes.

As a complete aside (and a contrived , though i’d say accurate description):

In an effective two party system a vote that doesn’t correspond with either of the two sides is effectively a vote for the ultimate victor.

This isn’t a commentary on the politics of either side, i mean this as general statement on how voting would effectively work in that kind of system.

Assuming you agree with that point of view, how do you reconcile the potential ethical and moral outcomes of not voting at all ?

Genuine question, zero baiting.

Disliking politics and all the current political parties doesn’t fit the technical definition of a centrist.

It’s not that centrism can’t exist, it’s that it’s commonly used as a thin pretense to cover actual partisan leanings, usually right-wing (by the general global metric, not just the US one).

Additionally, abstinence isn’t commonly a good approach by which to assert a legitimately central stance. A lot of the time a legitimately central stance doesn’t exist in a practical sense.

As stated by a commenter above “The middleground between racism and not racism is 50% racism”.

I personally think the concept of “centrism” isn’'t viable, not because nuance and context can’t exist but because the “center” often isn’t a useful target.