GlueBear

How does this factor in with the 2027 timeline for confrontation in the scs?

I’ve been on the fence on whether or not the US is actually going to commit to the 2027 timeline or if they’ve given up.

Part of me says they won’t try it, it seems like trump is trying to decouple the US from China. It would be stupid to go after China now, plus it seems like trump is taking an isolationist stance on wars and military operations.

I worded it wrong, what I mean is that a majority of Jews being Zionists now is not something to hold against the entire group for the rest of their history. It’s horrible, but people can change. The next generations of Jews will be more and more against Zionism.

What I’m getting at is: it’s a heinous fuck up but it’s not a permanent fuck up. People change for the better. We should continue to call it out for the disgusting hatred it is, and anyone (jew or not) that is a Zionist is a horrible person.

anti-Semitism is real and it is rising, narratives that isolate the actions of the Zionist entity from the US are probably the biggest fuel atm. It’s important for anti-zionists to always call the genocide as the US backed and sanctioned genocide.

Red hats/fascists don’t care about human rights, as quickly as they picked up the rhetoric that “Israel has a right to defend itself” they’ll drop it and use Israel (and all Jews) as the scapegoat for US/western failure.

That’s why narratives that the entity controls the US are extremely harmful to Jews as a whole, zionist or not.

One other thing I wanted mention: I don’t care that most Jews are Zionists, it says nothing of Judaism or Jewishness as a whole. It’s senile to use ~100 year old ideology to describe the past, present, and future of Jewishness. As quickly as Zionism became popular, it will disposed by Jews in the future.

My thought process: every group of people has stupid/horrible beliefs (look up how many Muslims don’t want secularism, or how many whites consistently practice white supremacy), you don’t define a group of people by an ideology you define individuals to an ideology.

The vast majority of white people in the US did not want to abolish segregation, look where they are now. People are dynamic and generations change.

That’s why I don’t hold it against Jews (or anyone for that matter) that believe in dumb/bigoted ideas. EVERY group of people has done that, no one is unique.

About most Jews being Zionists, I don’t know why they threw a fit over that. That’s a factual statement, most Jews ARE Zionists. I mean, almost half of all Jews globally live in the settler project.

That shouldn’t make anyone reconsider their anti-zionist stance, because genocide, ethnostates, fascism, and colonialism don’t magically become better bc it’s not white supremacy flavored. To me, I accept that most Jews are Zionists. That’s not going to make me support killing babies and blocking aid, bc I don’t care what most Jews think. If something is wrong, it’s wrong no matter the race.

This is why people keep getting called anti-Semitic, they’re banking on you caring that you’re going against the wishes of a majority of Jews which makes you (in their eyes) an anti-semite. If you don’t care and tell them “no matter the race genocide is wrong” they’ll learn to use another argument. Don’t budge, don’t let them use their Jewishness (or someone else’s) as a bludgeon against your values.

Unironically being concerned with being called an anti-semite will only associate Zionism with Judaism/Jewishness. That’s when actual anti-Semitism starts to rise. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen the take that isntrael controls America (and not the other way around) across countless social media sites. Whenever you correct them, they bring up AIPAC, they bring up how people can get deported for bigotry* against Jews but not any other race, the various wars & operations in SWANA for isntrael, etc.

They’re drawing horrible conclusions from actual facts, the days of “Jewish cabals are secretly ruling the US illuminati style!!1!” are gone, now they bring up things that are actually happening or have actually happened.

I think they overreacted, that place is stupidly toxic and doesn’t want to call out/ is very uncomfortable with calling out the mistakes that marginalized people can make. I think you should take the ban as a blessing, there’s nothing to go back to except death threats and mods that want to ignore the user base.

*Bigotry here is any criticism against isntrael. They actually do not care about conspiracy theories and lies against Jews. They have no intention to protect Jews and Jewishness outside of isntrael support.

Realistic solution?

Oh yeah, I guess you’re right. I remember when we had a two state solution with the Confederacy and Union states, that was the most realistic solution to slavery. One group is free and the other left in a perpetual state of “realism”

Decolonization is possible