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  • It’s unsuitable for highway use because car drivers are prone to murderous tantrums when they’re stuck behind someone actually doing the speed limit.

    That’s just my opinion but too many motorcyclists who disagreed aren’t alive to argue the point.

    Petrol powered motorcycles are plenty of fun and available cheap. If you were really interested in some weekend riding you could make that a reality any time.

    I suspect you won’t regardless of price because most people don’t get into motorcycles, probably in part because most people just about shit themselves in terror the first time an SUV tailgates them at highway speeds.


  • As someone who owns six motorcycles and is currently eyeing a 7th believe me, I know what makes them work as a ‘concept’ and range to weight is a very odd metric. Generally it is power to weight for motorcycles in Western countries, or even just power.

    I would happily trade 50kg on an electric motorcycle to double the range, which seems a reasonable guestimate as the total weight is a claimed 177kg.

    It’s almost a certainty I will buy an electric motorcycle at some stage but without the range they’re useless to me, without the top speed they’re dangerous in certain situations, and not appealing to enthusiasts.


  • Commuters don’t buy a lot of motorcycles (comparatively) in Western countries which given the price tag, is where this is intended to sell.

    Motorcyclists like me do commute on motorcycles but I’m an enthusiast and so are most of those other commuting motorcyclists.

    so I’m not sure why my vehicle should be able to drive 280 km/h. Even more so on a motorcycle.

    No prizes here for guessing that you’re not into cars or motorbikes. And why would someone own two vehicles when one can commute and hit the track unless you’re particularly dedicated to track riding?

    Lets put it this way… are you going to buy one? Because I’m not and I’m mad about motorcycles.

    Fair point on a speed limited car, personally I also wouldn’t buy one of them.



  • Can you point to a car that is limited to 130kmh? Add that to the range dropping dramatically when using these bikes at highway speeds where you would be lucky to see a 100km range.

    Lower range means more recharging cycles, which means shorter battery life, which means higher running costs.

    It’s also too low because I’d rather not become a hood ornament for some road rager where the safest solution is to drop a gear and disappear.

    That’s not to mention the fun factor and taking it to a track. Even little bikes like the Kawasaki Ninja 400 and Honda CBR300 have higher top speeds.

    electric motor producing 47 hp (35 kW) and 53 lb-ft of torque, which is comparable to a 700 cc combustion engine.

    Also you can easily tell this isn’t written by a motorcyclist because it isn’t remotely comparable. That’s less power than my 600cc single cylinder motorcycle puts out at 55 hp, and less than half of what my 600cc 4 cylinder ZX6R puts out at 113 hp.

    In fact its reasonably close to the 45hp my FZR250 puts out, which as the name implies is a 250cc 4 cylinder, and that’s a 30 year old motorcycle.

    Yes someone could quote Harley’s abysmal HP numbers for their oversized engines but they’re quite literally 1950s tech and not remotely relevant to the discussion.

    That’s without even mentioning gearing which allows my 55 hp single cylinder motorcycle to reach 160kmh and my ZX6R tops out at 280kmh (gps measured, stock gearing).

    TLDR: range, safety and fun are all missing.