I generally reframe it from a perspective even they think they understand: Money.

Governments want their money. Less Population = Less Taxes for them to take, ergo, no government is trying to lower their population. And do they, the audience, think that the government is willing to have less money?

I don’t think so!

Yeah, stupid people who lack empathy only get to run for the Republican ticket!

Good though they cut finding to that, too, then.

Considered a public service, ideally.

Thankfully, most of that shit is still on magtape, so actually have to work for it.