• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    Said deputy shot and killed the man’s 16 year old son days prior.

    Bit of a correction. He was brought to the police station to be shown the body cam footage of his son being shot by police and on his way home he purposefully ran over a cop that was directing traffic. It wasn’t the same cop who shot his son.

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      So he killed someone who had nothing to do with his son’s death in retaliation?

      Yeah, I don’t see how those two are equivalent. I appreciate the clarification though.

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        Not even the same police force …he ran over a University of Cincinnati police officer. I mean they have a bad record too but they didn’t harm his son.

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        In my opinion, they’d be the same if he killed the sheriff of the department since Mangione killed the CEO. It’s easy to place responsiblity on the person in charge.

        Killing a random cop from the department is only the same if you subscribe to the belief that All Cops Are Bastards. In that case, you could say all cops in the department would be equally responsible for the death since none of them speak out against officers who kill people.

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          I don’t think all but the most rabid ACAB supporter would support killing one officer in retaliation to what another did, that’s some bizarre reasoning.

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            As a foreign cracker, it seems like the perspective of many black Americans is similar to the way non-mentally ill people view a jew killing a nazi (because of what other nazis have done).

            I’m not implying the situation’s are identical, or that this cop deserved it, but hate is a natural response to oppression and persecution, especially by the state, and especially across generations. It doesn’t look like anything has really changed since George Floyd (or Rodney King 35 years ago), except that America is more of a fascist shithole. As long as some cops are immune to be lawless criminals, it’s ridiculous to expect blacks to forgive and forget.

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              cracker means poor white person… the term started in Europe from rich white people talking about poor white people.

              pretty much a hillbilly.

              i do see it as similar to your example, but there are some important differences….

              but, this was a temporary insanity case if i ever saw one. he just watched bodycam video of his son being shot in the back… the official report says the kid had a gun and shot first.

              even though that contradicted what’s on video, all of the cops will testify that’s what happened, and an officers testimony is considered solid evidence in court. basically equivalent to physical evidence. The cop will walk. Maybe move to a different city and murder kids there.

              for the record, i stole a car when i was a teenager too… when they pulled us over, they thought i was loading a gun because i was trying to hide a pipe in the car (i didn’t even have weed for it)… they surrounded us with guns drawn and did not kill any of us.

              guess what color skin we all had?

              maybe they would’ve shot if we all tried to run… but i doubt it.

              i see it very similar to a jew killing a nazi in nazi germany… it’s not as severe, but not that far off.
              i wish he had hunted down the actual cop who murdered his kid… then i’d be fully on board.

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              The George Floyd example was a lot more clear cut, I think. Hard to argue that was anything other than murder.

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        It is along the thinking of “kill one of my family members, I take one of yours in response”. You’re stretching the definition of ‘nothing to do with’ in a world where ACAB is the current prevailing sentiment.

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      Additionally the officer that was killed, Larry Ray Henderson Jr, was a retired deputy who was helping direct traffic at the university of Cincinnati. He was just trying to be part of his community and help out.

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      The point, everyone, is to exact vengeance on those responsible. A member of the police force is not responsible for the entire force. If you do take justice into your own hands, either go for either the one who did it or the one who ordered it. Killing anyone else makes no sense and makes you a bad person.

      Edit: out of curiosity I tried to see if the deputy who was the victim of revenge had a criminal history, but their identity is protected under Marsy’s Law, legislation meant to protect victims of crimes. This law also protects the one who shot Ryan Hinton, because apparently the killer cop is the victim.