• Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    Yup; upvoted, and doing exactly this.

    But that same argument can be applied at all levels. These people are also Americans and humans, with a distorted sharpie-version of both identities.

    We all need to own our shared identity with these people while rejecting the false narratives they stand behind.

    • lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      “Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority. So of course there’s a HUGE difference, and I’m not sure your point is anything but whataboutism

      • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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        3 days ago

        How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians? They’re overlapping groups that as a whole are behaving pretty badly right now. You could apply the same logic here to police officers or many other groups (manyotherism?)

        You may have a point with humanity as a whole, as there’s only one way to exit that group and it’s not going to be an effective solution to the world’s current problems.

        It’s not “whataboutisn” when someone says “I own that and I’m doing what I can to fix things. This needs to be applied to other groups as well” though. That’s a “yes, and” not a “not this but that” argument.

        In this context, the other groups are brought up solely to illustrate the issues, and not to condone the bad behavior festering inside the larger group that self-identifies as Christian.

          • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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            2 days ago

            Imma be honest, I don’t know what they said either, but in part it’s because your comment that they’re replying to didn’t make sense.

            “Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority.

            This doesn’t scan at all.