• TunaLobster@lemmy.world
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    Here I am still using requirements.txt and the built in venv. Sure poetry looks cool. I just don’t have it everywhere. Now I just have to wait 5 years before I can reliably use a pylock.toml. Progress!

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      i love requirements files, venv, and pyenv.

      Bringing requirements into pyproject.toml does not have enough value add to bother with. My requirements files are hierarchical. Extensively using -r and -c options AND venv aware.

      pep751 does bring value, by stating both the host url and the hash of every package.

      setuptools will fight this to continue their strange hold on Python

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    Viva la package dependencies!

    Does it do away with setuptools? After my experience interacting with the maintainers, now refer to that package as, The Deep State

    The Deep State only supports loading dependencies from pypi.org Which has many advantages right up until it doesn’t.

    This new standard contains dependency host url. Hope there is a package other than setuptools that supports it.

    When bring it up, and prove it, the responses alternate between playing dumb and gaslighting. The truth is The Deep State are gate keepers. And they are in the way.

    Training wheels off mode please! So there is support for requirements files that contain on which server dependencies are hosted with more than one choice. Would like the option to host packages locally or remotely using pypiserver or equivalent.

    On the positive side, setuptool maintainers did not suggest voodoo dolls, try to wait out the planetary alignment, better economic conditions, or peace on Earth.

    That’s how the conversation comes off to my eyes. But form your own opinion. Especially enjoyable for folks who also enjoyed the TV series, The Office.

    What are the alternatives to being stonewalled by setuptools?

    Disclosure: Wrote requirements rendering package, wreck. I have my own voodoo dolls and plenty of pins