So where are the intersex toilets?
Not sure what that is, but the place I’m going to later today has a common toilet for both sexes. Sinks and bins are common, then there are lockable booths. Works well enough, at least for me as a CIS man.
Intersex is a biological rarity wherein a person exhibits sexual characteristics of both sexes. They’re neither strictly biologically male nor strictly female. Hence, if they’re supposed to use the bathroom matching their sex, they’ll need a separate bathroom.
(There’s a lot of complexity and unpleasantness I’m omitting for brevity, but the point is that they don’t fit into simple binary assumptions like the one underlying the headline)
How do they plan on enforcing this?
How about we have ungendered washrooms and everyone uses the same one?
Stupidest take Ive seen in a long time. People apparently dont think for a second before upvoting.
Forcing trans people to use restrooms they arent comfortable with is a problem but this is most definitely not a valid solution.Let’s be real, the bathroom itself isn’t the problem. No one is uncomfortable with the physical facilities. So, forcing trans women to use a bathroom with people they aren’t comfortable sharing a bathroom with is bad but forcing cis women to share a bathroom with people they aren’t comfortable sharing a bathroom with is totally ok, right? If the single, ungendered bathroom isn’t the most equal solution then this whole issue isn’t about equality.
EDIT: To be clear, before the extremists inevitably pile on, I am very much for equality and trans right and have been since before most of the current cabal of extremists were born. As a cis man I don’t care who I’m peeing next to but I can understand why a cis woman might have reservations about sharing a bathroom with someone who has as penis.
So your solution to a problem affecting a small minority is to use huge amounts of tax money to extend the problem to everyone, fixing it for none?
Labeling me a troll will NOT silence me. If you’re not here to have a good faith discussion, leave.
How does gender neutral washrooms not solve the problem?
I misinterpreted parts of your comment and already edited it before you finished yours.
Nevertheless, Im a little confused about your stance. You literally wrote in your comment that it would make women uncomfortable by forcing them to share restrooms with men. It would solve the problem for (some, definitely not most) trans women and create the same problem for 100 times the number of cis women.
In my comment, the problem is actually the physical spaces themselves. Many washrooms, especially those in North America and most especially in the US, provide very little privacy or safety.
The washrooms would need to be redesigned so that the entrances had no doors, so that the sink area was very open, and so that the toilets were located in enclosed, private stalls. Urinals would have to be located out of sight in a separate area, perhaps around a corner.
The issue now is that washrooms are poorly designed and women don’t want to be in a washroom with men. Forcing a small number of trans women to use a washroom with men is no different than forcing cis women to share a washroom with biological men. We need a solution that takes those issues away and well designed gender neutral washrooms are the solution. No one can be excluded.
Yeah, just have it all be stalls.
Why? That’s a downgrade
What do you mean downgrade? You literally get access to toilet paper.
I suppose it’ll require some modification of the current toilets. And they aren’t few(toilets, I mean). Overall, the “problem” is hugely exaggerated. A toilet is a toilet.
I would pay money to see the reaction of these people watching a trans man like Buck Angel entering a women’s Restroom.
So much for the view that trans people would not be impacted by this ruling, it was a clarification and they were covered elsewhere in the law
Biology does not support this viewpoint. We should stop calling it “biological sex” and just call it bigotry.
May be an ignorant question but How does biology Not Support This viewpoint?
Sex is not binary. There are at least 30 genetic combinations of genes responsible for primary sex organs naturally occurring in human biology, and the presentation of secondary sexual characteristics runs a full spectrum of different phenotypes.
Further, the neurological and social processes of transgender identification are biological processes.
Gender is a social construct that describes the majority phenotypes, but there are far more outliers than the bigots would have you believe, and the science backs that up at every level.
“Biological sex” is LGBTQA++plus something we haven’t even discovered yet. And there’s no evidence of bathroom incidents involving trans individuals where they weren’t the victims.
Also, your question reminded me of something my biology professor would say: “Ignorance is not asking the question.” Good job being curious.
