• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    Maybe to you? It’s pretty clear. The fact that this inoffensive meme says not to be anti semitic and you had to jump in with a reason to justify and blame someone else for the anti semitism is telling

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      I don’t think just to me. Extreme lobbying has brought us to a situation where they are now labelling genocide criticism as anti-semitic and illegal. So yea that builds some unpleasant reflex in people and its clear who is to blame for.

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        Im extra sensitive and aware of it. I’m indigenous but married to a Jewish woman. She’s in no way Israeli and is not political but she’s experienced anti semitism this past year more than any other. She’s been harassed outside of the Jewish family centre by protests, why are there protests in front of the Jewish centres?? Why do people equate all Jews on earth with Israel.

        Not just that, nobody here seems to differentiate between Netanyahu and all Israelis as a whole, yet you guys get mad when I blame all Americans for trump

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          Well I mean anti semitist people (in real sense) is one type of shit and people who use the word antisemitism to justify their genocidal agenda is another type of shit. I wish we could put them all in the same bag and shoot them to space.

          But the fact that I have to write (in the real sense) next to my comment about antisemitism is already demonstrating the damage the dickhead Netanyahu’s and Zionist lobbies’ approach is causing. It used to be a blame that sent shivers down people’s spine. Now not as much.

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      Antisemitism is hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group.

      Zionism, Jewish nationalist movement with the goal of the creation and support of a Jewish national state in Palestine, the ancient homeland of the Jews (Hebrew: Eretz Yisraʾel, “the Land of Israel”)., where antizionism is the opposition to Israeli nationalism.

      Everyone keeps conflating these two, and it’s quite annoying. And I’ll say it louder for the people in the back: OPPOSING ISRAEL’S INDISCRIMINATE GENOCIDE IS NOT ANTISEMITISM. It is in no reference to Jews, either as a religion or a race, it is towards the Israeli government and their nationalistic followers that allow for the slaughter of men, women, and children.

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        Everyone keeps conflating these two, and it’s quite annoying. And I’ll say it louder for the people in the back: OPPOSING ISRAEL’S INDISCRIMINATE GENOCIDE IS NOT ANTISEMITISM. It is in no reference to Jews, either as a religion or a race, it is towards the Israeli government and their nationalistic followers that allow for the slaughter of men, women, and children.

        No, but as people in this very thread have shown, there are those who use antizionism to justify antisemitism. Advocating for the genocide of Israeli Jews is antisemitic, regardless of the fact that the Israeli government is likewise genocidal.

        The answer to “The Nazis are rounding people up in camps to murder them!” is not “Well, let’s just round up all the Germans in camps and murder them.” Likewise, the answer to “Israel is trying to expel or murder all Palestinians from the land of their birth!” is not “Well, let’s expel or murder all Israelis from the land of their birth.”