Surely there aren’t enough people walking them constantly to mash the grass to death, is there some kind of membrane placed under the dirt to stop grass growth?

  • starlinguk@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    7 hours ago

    Where I live they’re not maintained at all. If nobody uses them for a while they disappear. I have a “path” nearby that’s on every single map but you can no longer see it used to be a path.

    • foggy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      5 hours ago

      laughs in New England accent

      Absolutely not.

      “Rock before root and root before dirt - and never touch the mud if you can help it.”

      Literally hiking 101 out here. What we teach the children for trail preservation.

      Is also why ~5 miles in ADK, the greens, or the whites, is like ~10 miles anywhere else. But yeah… No. Traffic definitely does not keep a trail in shape.

      • vzq@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        7 hours ago

        Can you please elaborate? What is that children’s rhyme meant to teach? What are green and white ADKs?

        Google was not very helpful.

        • just_ducky_in_NH@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          5 hours ago

          ADK is short for ADirondacK mountain range. The others are the Green Mountain range and White Mountain range. All start in New England. The saying describes how step on the trail without causing it to erode into a gully.

        • foggy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          6 hours ago

          ADK = Adirondacks.

          Green (Mountains), White (Mountains).

          It teaches kids to preserve trails by not walking on them, if at all possible. While walking on trails in New York and New England, you should aim for a rock first. If there is no rock to step on, aim for a root. If there is no root, then dirt is ok to step on. But avoid mud at all costs.

          This highlights the ruggedness of the terrain out there. Where many hikes elsewhere provide such an ample amount of dirt with so little rock and root to aim for first, it is not a well known trail maintenance practice outside of the region. However, in the region, it is essential. When ignored, large patches of mud that will last all season long start to form. When this happens, trail maintainers either:

          1. Close the trail until it’s restored

          2. Reroute the trail permanently

          3. Lay down wooden planks to minimize further damage (least sustainable option).

          This maintenance is tax dollars, and they don’t have a lot of them, so education is the most effective use of that dollar. And that’s why we teach the kids:

          Rock before root and root before dirt, and never step in mud if you can avoid it! 🤠

  • DoubleDongle@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    59
    ·
    12 hours ago

    Yes, there are enough people walking on it to just kill the grass. No further effort is needed to form the pathway. Many wild animals make paths by walking on them a lot too.

  • cymbal_king@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    12 hours ago

    Plants are actually pretty sensitive to soil compaction, which can take a lot of time to reverse. the composition clay/sand in the soil can changed the time it takes to resettle, and it might even just erode down to rock.

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      11 hours ago

      This one makes the most sense. There’s trails behind my house that I walk pretty much daily and maybe meet three people the entire time. There’s just not enough people walking on that path to cause that so it must be the compaction.

  • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    edit-2
    12 hours ago

    No, it’s just foot traffic everywhere I’ve hiked

    edit- I guess maybe you’re talking about those nature hikes with the box-landscape-stairs. Those are filled in with rock and clay so the grass doesn’t have any nutrients, then maintained with the fine granite gravel, which I think even has a chemical effect on the soil, suppressing plants

  • Opinionhaver@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    11 hours ago

    The fact that the trail exists there in the first place means that there’s enough people walking on it that the grass dies and doesn’t grow bag. I’ve started a trail from scratch and I doubt there’s more than a handful of people walking there every week but the trail just keeps getting more carved in.

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 hours ago

      This one’s man made though, it’s around a nature preserve and it’s runs between dozens of small communities in my area. This area is well known for outdoors, trails, creeks, small lakes, all in a very dense residential area.

  • 56!@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    7 hours ago

    The construction of a hiking path depends on the environment and budget. There certainly is membrane used in some, especially in wet/boggy environments. I think it’s mostly gravel that’s used to prevent grass from growing. (people don’t walk on the entire width of the path usually)

  • JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    13 hours ago

    I built an office shed in my back yard. Almost all the grass is gone where I walk between the back door and the shed. I do this fairly frequently, but I’d think still quite a bit less than an even lightly trafficked hiking path.

    I’ll put some stepping stones out there eventually.