• TylerBourbon@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Ok look I voted for Kamala but if a candidate fails can we please run someone one else? You don’t run the same person over again because the same people who felt like she was forced down their throats are still going feel like she’s being forced down their throats.

    And the same bs that was used against her will be used again. But people eat yhay shit up which is why it works.

    And her tactics of bring out appealing to Republicans again is probably whay she’ll do again and that’s going to lose more dem voters.

    The corporate Dems need to go away.

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    16 days ago

    The fact that Kamala is even going to try to run again shows how fucked that party is.

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    17 days ago

    If Harris was a leader she would be out there touring like AOC. Shes not a leader. She had her shot to prove otherwise and didn’t.

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      17 days ago

      I mean, if I were her I’d feel drained and devastated. Everything that happened during the election and people still picked Trump over her…

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        17 days ago

        I have a hard time feeling sorry for her after leaving the left hanging and going after conservative votes. She made an incredibly poor strategic choice and it cost all of us.

        Obviously she’s not the only one to blame here, conservatives deserving the majority of blame followed by people that stayed home, but she doesn’t deserve pity.

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        17 days ago

        If she’s still drained and devastated months after losing, she’s not emotionally mature enough to be president. What’s going to happen the first time a soldier gets killed in combat? At least Hillary has some cajones, Harris never gave me that impression.

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        Don’t worry, I vowed to never vote DNC after 2016, so if you catch me voting 3rd party, sleep well knowing it was either that or not voting at all

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          sleep well knowing it was either that or not voting at all

          Those are both equally pointless exercises. Keep doing you and we’ll keep staring at you like you don’t know what you’re doing, because you don’t.

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            I find it funny that so many people feel it’s pointless to vote for parties that represent their views. Don’t lie to yourself that we live in a democracy

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              15 days ago

              Exactly this. People who hate facism telling you you have no choice in your vote. Umm… that’s… kinda fascist…

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    15 days ago

    Why does the Democratic party have a hard on for running failed politicians? Kamala lost, let others step up. AOC would do great in the Dem Primaries

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      So tell me why? Explain it like I’m a 6 yo. What exactly is the appeal of AOC? Someone who once aligned herself with two antisemites? She’s not a Senator, she’s a representative for New York State. Does she have the same appeal as David Hogg? Strike me down and call me a conservatard (I’ve never ever voted Republican) but AOC is a gaffe machine, but somehow it’s on purpose? Can we talk about Ilhan Omar and Rashid Talib? How the fuck did they ever become Representatives for Minnesota and Detroit…yeah I know it’s been a minute, but this is the Democratic Party…how did Leftist get so confused that they felt the need to support right wing religious nuts? You know what I talking about right? You could take your average everyday Muslim and a white supremacist and ask them both how they feel about women/jewish people/gay people and you’d get the same answer. Did AOC support the striking train workers in 2022? The union for the rail workers never really got the deal they wanted. What does AOC stand for exactly? Just the typical Gen Z talking points? “We gotta support drag queens in libraries!” Yeah, I’m an old fuddy duddy who thinks that identity politics is a losing battle, maybe if everyone can get under the umbrella of the idea that billionaires are working to ruin this country? Maybe we can talk about wealth inequality and how no one who is working class can afford anything? Housing prices, rent, basic living income and basic standards for ALL human beings? I love Bernie Sanders, god bless him, but AOC and Bernie spreading whatever message they are is falling on deaf ears, the ears of middle America. I’ll take my beating now

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        You’re quite lost in the sauce if you think all AOC is about is “identity politics” and “drag queens in libraries.” I know someone already dealt with you, but you told on yourself by even posting those things.

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        Yeah, I’m an old fuddy duddy who thinks that identity politics is a losing battle, maybe if everyone can get under the umbrella of the idea that billionaires are working to ruin this country?

        If that’s how you feel, you’re supporting the wrong people. It was centrists who turned to identity politics to hide their lack of an economic platform. Remember when Hillary said breaking up the big banks won’t end racism? Remember when the new DNC chair said they would still take money from good billionaires? If you want Democrats to focus on the billionaires ruining our country, AOC’s your best bet.

        I love Bernie Sanders, god bless him, but AOC and Bernie spreading whatever message they are is falling on deaf ears, the ears of middle America.

        10K showed up for them in Michigan. 12.5K people showed up for them in Idaho. 30k showed up for them in a Trump district in Montana. Doesn’t seem like it’s falling in deaf ears, but maybe your right, and the Democrats should just not try to win any states in the middle of the country. I’m sure that’s a great strategy.

        What does AOC stand for exactly? Just the typical Gen Z talking points? “We gotta support drag queens in libraries!”

        You could take your average everyday Muslim and a white supremacist and ask them both how they feel about women/jewish people/gay people and you’d get the same answer.

        Get fucked, bigot.

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          Yep, this is the kind of ad hominem attack I would expect. You think I support Hillary Clinton? What Do you think that Centrism is about exactly? Is your righteous anger going to change the world? You’re adorable

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    1. Stop with this shit. It’s 2025. This is stupid.

    2. Women can’t be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing. If you want to win, find another candidate with a dick. That’s a requirement in America. Not saying I like it. Just saying that’s reality.

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      Actually this is a good chance to prove things. Most would rather vote for a woman than Trump right now. This could be a perfect moment for a woman to get in power and kick some ass.

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        “People need to vote Democrat to keep the country from further imploding, so we’re gonna make the candidate a woman. That way they’ll HAVE to vote for a woman and we can check that off our list!”

        this is a losing strategy, you’re even considering doing it with the same loser from 2024. We lost both 2016 and 2024 by doing this exact same thing. What are you going to tell me next, that the candidate should be Jill Stein?

        At least AOC is an actual good candidate, but again: woman. You’ll lose.

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    Is this wise? As an outside observer I had the impression that Harris lost in part because of systematic, subtle and overt racism and sexism. All this applies to AOC, too. Do the Democrats want to lose? Don’t they have some sort of JFK look-alike, people actually want to vote? It’s not as if appearance wasn’t way more important in the US than things like the actual political agenda.

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      really? even republicans hate vance. Have you seen any polls saying vance has any backing in either party? Maybe trump picked him because he knew vance would never, ever be a threat.

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        But will the public have enough confidence to vote for Harris or AOC over Vance?

        Definitely not for Harris. People were definitely fine for dealing with Trump to avoid Harris. Either that, or the Dems couldn’t cheat as much in 2024.

        I mean, 81 million people voted for Biden to avoid Trump, weird that only 75 million came out of their shells for Harris.

        Vote Blue No Matter Who didn’t work for Harris, won’t work for AOC either. But stranger things have happened.

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      can’t afford to learn anymore lessons.

      Lol!!! They can afford the whole school!! They are laughing hand in hand with Republicans all the way to the bank!!

      “BUT THEY ARE BETTER THO!”

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    I’d vote for AOC over Kamala, 100%.

    I mean, I still voted for Kamala, but I wasn’t excited about it.

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      So the “democrats” have no incentive to improve in your case

      You’ll just vote whoever they choose on the ballot

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    The shock to me is that Kamala Harris is in the poll at all. What rallies is she hosting? Is she even making any media appearances? I wouldn’t be surprised though if the DNC pull out the super delegates to say AOC has lost day 1 if there is even going to be a 2028 election at all.

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      14 days ago

      Does it matter tho?

      Y’all know that if they say vote Kamala, y’all will vote Kamala, like it or not

      And the “democrats” know that y’all will vote blue no matter who anyways

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      itt: we are completely fucked and this might be the end of america… but i ain’t voting for her! she better personally bless every toilet as transgender compatible and become a member of hamas before i vote for her!