• lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org
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    6 months ago

    …says the guy on Lemmy criticizing the U.S. government and not getting thrown in jail for it.

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      6 months ago

      You do understand that free speech that doesn’t threaten the government is tolerated everywhere, right? Us having more free speech here is just a function of the US government feeling more secure in its power, you can still find examples of free speech being punished in the US when it has threatened its power.

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        6 months ago

        Then China must feel real threatened. According to this, it’s against the law in China to even say you don’t agree with the law.

        “A citizen, when exercising the right of freedom of the press, shall abide by the Constitution and the law, and shall not oppose the basic principles established by the Constitution or damage the interests of the State, the society or the collective, or the lawful freedom and rights of other citizens.”

        A million Uyghurs, whose only apparent crime is being Muslim, have been sent to labor camps and undergone forced sterilization.

        Tiananmen Square started out as people peacefully protesting government corruption, and ended in the state murdering them.

        With respect to free speech, there’s not even a comparison there with respect to America. It’s not “potato potato”.

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        6 months ago

        You can make that exact same argument about dropping bombs.

        When countries are threatened and dropping bombs relieves that threat instead of increases it, then they do. It’s just that right now violent escalation doesn’t benefit China, so it stays in the realm of sabre rattling

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          Sure, if you know literally nothing about the military industrial complex and government capture and its role in creating war, and you want to buy into the propaganda that the US only attacks when it feels threatened.

          When countries are threatened and dropping bombs relieves that threat instead of increases it, then they do.

          Settler-brained-as-fuck idea about how conflict works

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            This was not a defense of the USA you braindead idiot. I did not offer “feeling threatened” as an excuse for the USAs behaviour. The USA is threatened by the mere existence of successful countries that are not hypercapitalist (although tbf the tool used in this case is usually a coup, rather than bombs).

            Not all countries consider the same things to be threats.