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US Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem appeared in commercials aired on Mexican TV warning that anyone crossing the border illegally would be prosecuted and deported.
Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.semafor.com/article/04/22/2025/sheinbaum-bans-us-propaganda
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We should have all done this about 9 years ago when it became apparent that it was being used to destabilise our democracies.
It’s been going on for way longer than 9 years, is part of the problem. They turned up the propaganda at just the right rate and timing
I hope they apply and enforce this equally on pro-chinese propoganda because it’s everywhere and I expect Mexico to be the perfect target right now.
It’s so funny to see people respond to Kristi Noem’s “Fuck you, you fucking <racial explicate>s” TV ads and think to themselves “It would be just as terrible if the Chinese started running ads where they were friendly and nice.”
The American idea of fairness is bananas. Literally getting mad because the Chinese are being too polite to brown people.
That would actually be terrible, yes. I remind you that the Chinese supported the Trump campaign during the election.
Chinese end goals are one people walking along a path of corpses. Any goodwill they show is purely transactional. There is no future of peace or prosperity so long as they can reach you.
I assume you’ve never met a Chinese person and have terrible knowledge of American history with Mexico and ethnic Mexican Americans just even in the last 100 years. We know what racism you’re supporting
You mean the racism that the Chinese Dictatorship helped put in the white house? Alright, pal, see how well that works out for Mexico. Why just look at China’s many other friends: Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet, North Korea, Indonesia…
Besides north korea, go visit. Have you ever been to Mexico? Have you ever heard of the deportations of Mexican Americans during the great depression or Los Halcones? Have you ever heard of the Vietnam war, the bombings in Indonesia by the US, the bombings of Laos and Cambodia? You never hear of Afghanistan or Iraq? You never learned about native Americans, dozens if not hundreds of genocides? Never learned about US occupation of the Phillipiines? You never learned about the mass killings in South Korea by the US backed regime post-WWII pre Korean war? Never learned of the US backed military dictatorships of South Korea and Taiwan? Taiwan and the once longest period of martial law in world history US backed. How about the assassination attempt of the secular supporting prime minister of Iran to back the Shah? How about the US backed genocidal regime in Nicaragua? How about post Vietnam war support for the Khmer Rouge? How about the support of Palestinian genocide?
You’re ignorant ass would probably spit on a Taiwanese or Hong Konger or Tibetan just as fast as a mainland Chinese because your whole basis of beliefs are rooted in ignorance.
the Chinese supported the Trump campaign
The Evil Foreigners Strike Again!
Chinese end goals are one people walking along a path of corpses.
How many genocides does the US have to be involved in before this reads like a punchline?
So you’re saying China can commit as many genocides as it likes, it can cage and mutilate minorities at home and veto UN ceasefires abroad, because somewhere else another evil person also exists?
How about you try opposing both like I did at the start of this thread?
Your whataboutism is not any better then his…
Saying the rules and consequences should apply equally to everyone is the opposite of whataboutism.
Are you really trying to argue with a tanky?
Always argue with Tankies. Always insult Tankies. Always waste Tankies time.
Yes, but you are literally dropping yourself to their position to swing fists at what is ostensibly an iron mountain. There are far more effective methods. You’re not going to convince them you’re not going to convince anybody that’s reading it and you’re actually hurting your own cause because you come off like a paranoid schizo instead of level-headed. The Chinese guy is rage baiting you and you’re falling for it.
I would strongly advise you to reconsider how you were approach. Tankies. Head on assaults are not the best.
Both, both is good.
Yes. Across the board this can be great for Mexican democracy.
TIL that saying “if you come to our country illegally, we will arrest and deport you” is propaganda.
Edit: oops, I seem to have accidentally posted a reasonable thought that goes against the circle-jerk. I’ll try to be a bit less objective and a bit more filled with myopic, conformist, unquestioned rage next time I comment here.
Don’t worry, I still believe that disappearing people to El Salvador is a terrible thing, and it makes me really angry, so I think I still pass the tribalist purity test.
It absolutely is… Basically anything spread to advance a cause or change behavior is technically propaganda. Generally, we use the term just when it’s done by or on behalf of a government, and especially when it’s pushing disinformation, but it’s all propoganda
The purpose of this is to push support, or at least normalization of, harsh treatment of Mexicans in the US or on the border. It’s also an intimidation and humiliation tactic
No matter how you slice it, this is blatant propaganda
You don’t understand English? Where are you from?
TIL there are morons in America who think Mexico is their country
You’ll have to explain who you’re talking about, or how that’s relevant.
In any case, this may help. Let me rephrase: “TIL that if you’re American, buying an ad in Mexico saying ‘if you come to our country illegally, we will arrest and deport you’ is propaganda.”
Your comment looks troll-like, but I will bite.
One of the definitions of propaganda is “information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view.”
In this situation is “information used to promote a political cause”, the cause being anti-migration. You may say it is only for the “illegals” but currently in the US anything appears to be illegal (see the case of the german backpackers).
The expectation is for governments to work together for such spots, the fact that the US bypassed the Mexican government and contacted directly the mexican media companies is a huge red flag. It was not any American person, it was the US government.
Thanks for the good-faith discussion. :)
So, correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like in that case the “Visit Mexico!” ads I saw when I was growing up in the US would be Mexican propaganda then, correct? Since they’re advancing a specific political cause, namely increasing tourist revenue and the government’s share of that revenue.
In that case, an ad saying “hey, don’t try to get into our country illegally because we’ll arrest and deport you” feels much less like propaganda to me than “hey, come visit our country so we can get your money!” does.
Edit: So, (aside from the comment that mentioned that this may be a mistranslation), if what you say about the situation is correct, to me it’s starting to sound like this might just be the Mexican government being intentionally incendiary and a bit hyperbolic in their language because they’re pissy about the US government going over their head and speaking directly to their people, which may be due to the (accurate or not) perception that the Mexican government isn’t doing enough to prevent illegal immigration. In that case, it seems like my original comment implying that this isn’t really propaganda is still mostly accurate.
The Visit Mexico ads are definitely propaganda, the word itself is a synonym of advertisement, but bening propaganda and displays a good relationship between Mexico and the United States, that is why you don’t hear backlash from it. Like I mentioned before the anti-migration message could have been agreed with the Mexican government.
You are framing your position on the fact that the mexican government position is incendiary or pissy, but the same can be said from the US ads, which are unprofessional, unprompted and unexpected, making them incendiary and pissy. Thus making them toxic propaganda.
Sorry, but I still just do not see how stating the obvious fact that “if you come here illegally you will be arrested and deported” can in any way be seen as “propaganda”.
The article that is linked (which is not much of an article) has translated the original source poorly. It’s being blocked because content on it was deemed discriminatory (not that it’s propaganda).
Ah, that makes a lot more sense, thanks for the explanation. It definitely feels discriminatory. That’s a terrible translation if this is the case.
