In my opinion, those who don’t want to work should still be given the Basic needs to live, as in food and housing, as a human right. But I was specifically talking about the ruling class that makes insane profits off other peoples’ labor.
those who don’t want to work should still be given the Basic needs to live
I 100% agree. But that then also involves redistribution of wealth from working to non-working people. From my moral PoV, it’s a much better form of wealth transfer than in capitalism, but the claim in the original post was that it doesn’t happen at all in socialism. And in least in the vision of socialism that I have in mind with universal income etc. that’s not correct.
The meme is more tha a short refutation for the old capitalist slogan aiming at dividing the working class than precise political program. It’s also a thought shortcut for an very old discussion about this. Effect was usually, as in socialist Poland, policy of full employment including disabled people according to their abilities. Even people just outright refusing to work, despite being officially labeled “social parasites” and sometimes harrassed by militia, weren’t cut off from welfare programs.
In my opinion, those who don’t want to work should still be given the Basic needs to live, as in food and housing, as a human right. But I was specifically talking about the ruling class that makes insane profits off other peoples’ labor.
People want to work.
Given a diseaseless society and unlimited job opportunities you will see everyone working.
I 100% agree. But that then also involves redistribution of wealth from working to non-working people. From my moral PoV, it’s a much better form of wealth transfer than in capitalism, but the claim in the original post was that it doesn’t happen at all in socialism. And in least in the vision of socialism that I have in mind with universal income etc. that’s not correct.
The meme is more tha a short refutation for the old capitalist slogan aiming at dividing the working class than precise political program. It’s also a thought shortcut for an very old discussion about this. Effect was usually, as in socialist Poland, policy of full employment including disabled people according to their abilities. Even people just outright refusing to work, despite being officially labeled “social parasites” and sometimes harrassed by militia, weren’t cut off from welfare programs.