• Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The goal of these nazis is nothing short of terrorism. They reversed a policy but achieved the goal. They will continue to terrorize everyone, taking advantage of our incredibly slow and ineffectual legal system.

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      Yeah, this is pretty much it. There’s a TON of students who already left, probably closed out everything on this side of the border for them as well - apartment leases, class enrollments, etc. They aren’t coming back just because ICE said “we promise it won’t happen again”, and now all the dumb idiots who weren’t paying attention can now point at a soundbite and say “well ICE reversed those because they did them wrong/weren’t supposed to, so it’s fine”. Combine this with the woman who was literally black-bagged off her college campus in full daylight and full view of surveillance cameras by ICE, and I sure as hell wouldn’t wanna come back just because the government pinky-swears it won’t happen again.

    • Basic Glitch@lemm.eeOP
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      Sorry dude but that sounds like some DOGE talk.

      The legal system is slow, but not ineffectual. It is literally the only thing working to pump the breaks. They ignored and violated the law by arresting that judge in Wisconsin, but the law is also the only reason she was able to be removed from jail after her arrest.

      They arrested that judge to make a statement because it was right after conservative justices on the supreme court sided with the left leaning justices.

      If we cut the breaks we give them exactly what they want.

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          There are a lot of weaknesses, that’s the issue.

          The point is not that we should preserve it because it’s a great system that doesn’t need to be fixed, the point is that if we just let it go in the hopes that it will be replaced with something better, we lose protections that many people are blissfully unaware they have.

          I’m asking this not to judge or attack anyone that doesn’t agree, but as legitimate questions. Let’s say we just agreed to let it all go and give up the rights that many people argue we already don’t have.

          Why do you think the judge that they arrested is not sitting in jail right now?

          When the woman in New Orleans was deported along with her children last week, why do you think ICE abruptly ended her call with her husband when he tried to give her the contact information for a lawyer?

          Why do you think Trump is even bothering to get the supreme court to rule in his favor when he tries to violate laws in order to trigger another constitutional crisis?

          Why would he bother with any legal steps? If he truly is as untouchable as he believes himself to be, why wouldn’t he just save himself the time and energy?

          We very well might see him reach the point when he says that he will no longer bother, but he’s already steadily losing public support (and more importantly his donors are losing money as the public also turns against them).

          Once he loses enough support and money, he knows he’s pretty fucked. It’s fucking disgusting he was ever allowed to reach this point to begin with a d continue to receive support.

          That doesn’t change the fact that saying ok you’re right, we don’t need these laws because they were never effective enough in the first place, allows him to skip ahead and reach the point where he can do all of these things without worrying about public opinion.

      • Prehensile_cloaca @lemm.ee
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        *brakes.

        Homophones are elementary school English, which generally lends credibility to any argument.

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            Oh please. “Attacking?” Look how you’re framing this. It was a simple correction.

            Let’s not turn Lemmy into Reddit with this type of add-on peanut gallery commentary. It does nothing for anyone except fuel negativity across the site.

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          Eh, I think most people would be able to reason through that, but I’m also a terrible speller, so I might be a little biased.

          That might also be why I agree typos can be a useful way to determine if you’re still talking to a human.

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          Are you aware that many people learn english as a second or third language?

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            What that matter. The proper answer whenever anyone cares enough to help you master something is “thank you”. So maybe get off your high horse and stop cheering mediocrity.

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              What that matter.

              Hmm… What’s that about mediocrity?

              “Thank you” would have been appropriate if you were intending to be helpful. Instead, you came off as an ignorant asshat, claiming that it devalues their argument.

              So kuddos to you for knowing homophones, but not contractions or punctuation, both of which are also “elementary level english”.

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        Lol polish that brass and rearrange the deck chairs while you’re calling people nazis for pointing out the unreality of your naive optimism.

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          I think I’ll just chill here with my civil rights for as long as I can hold on to them, or until somebody wants to tell me the alternative plan that would justify tossing them while facing the extremely wealthy and powerful group of individuals controlling the largest public and private militaries in the world, but thanks!

          Also, not sure where I called anyone a Nazi for not agreeing with me? If you’re justifying Nazism to fight what you perceive is fascism (a slow legal system?) then, yes I would probably say you are a Nazi, but I’m not sure why you would then be upset about it?

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            1)You have no civil rights. Nobody can save you from no knock warrantless searches of your home.

            2)DOGE are full nazis.

            3)your very verbose comments are 90% meaningless tripe

            Have a good life!

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    That’s because they’re trying to distract from the memo:

    For purposes of this guidance memorandum, an “Alien Enemy” under the Proclamation and 50 U.S.C. § 21 is a person who is: (1) fourteen years of age or older; (2) not a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States; (3) a citizen of Venezuela; and ( 4) a member of the hostile enemy Tren de Aragua, as determined by reference to Form AEA-21A, titled, “Alien Enemies Act: Alien Enemy Validation Guide,” attached to this memorandum.

    (2) Removal of Alien Enemies

    All aliens who are determined to be Alien Enemies under the Proclamation and 50 U.S.C. § 21 shall be issued a.Notice and Warrant of Apprehension and Removal under the AEA and removed from the United States, except as provided in section (8) of this memorandum. In effectuating the removal of Alien Enemies, law enforcement officers and agents (“officers”) must follow the procedures below.

    A. Apprehension and Removal Procedures in Proactive Matters i. Step 1: Validation of Alien Enemy Status and Execution of Form AEA-21A At Step 1 of the proactive AEA apprehension and removal procedures, a line officer, or any other available officer (“line officer”), is responsible for determining whether an individual qualifies as an Alien Enemy. As outlined above, that requires determining that an individual is:

    • (1) at least fourteen years ofage;
    • (2) not a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States;
    • (3) a citizen of Venezuela; and
    • (4) a member ofTren de Aragua.

    As outlined in that form, there may be instances where removal proceedings under the Immigration and Nationality Act (“INA”) would be more appropriate based upon a review of the facts of the case than removal under the AEA. Line officers should adhere to the instructions in Form AEA-21A, including consulting with their supervisor(s) and the Office of the Principal Legal Advisor, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, in making such a determination.

    As much as practicable, officers should follow the proactive procedures above—and have an executed Warrant of Apprehension and Removal—before contacting an Alien Enemy,” the memo reads. “However, that will not always be realistic or effective in swiftly identifying and removing Alien Enemies.… An officer may encounter a suspected Alien Enemy in the natural course of the officer’s enforcement activity, such as when apprehending other validated members of Tren de Aragua. Given the dynamic nature of enforcement operations, officers in the field are authorized to apprehend aliens upon a reasonable belief that the alien meets all four requirements to be validated as an Alien Enemy. This authority includes entering an Alien Enemy’s residence to make an AEA apprehension where circumstances render it impracticable to first obtain a signed Notice and Warrant of Apprehension and Removal” (emphasis added).

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25915967-doj-march-14-memo-alien-enemies-act/#document/p1