• aleph@lemm.ee
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    I know this almost certainly going to go down like a lead balloon (on Lemmygrad of all places!), but as a politician you often have to make nice with people you disagree with, or are even revolted by, especially if they are the leader of your party.

    It’s like how you can’t call out your boss at work every time he does something awful because you really want to stay in the organization because you see it as a way to do valuable work.

    Edit: please don’t bother to engage in further dialogue. I’ve been banned so can’t reply. Ciao!

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      Are you supporting the very authoritarian doctrine that the Liberals, red fascist tankiejerkers, victims of Communism, Pax Americana, and Bretton Woods institutions support in their hypocrisy? As a child from the abusive ableist victim of Communist family, I know that the Liberals justify their hypocritical authoritarianism with their claim that democracy, rule of law, and freedom are unrealistic policies that only existed in the little fantasy world of “spoiled” kids despite the many allegation of victories of “democracy” domestically and internationally under racist Western European diaspora. The tricks to the Liberal’s excuse for authoritarianism are that they brainwashed you to think that only the Western European approach to democracy are the only possible approach to democracy which negate all other realistic approaches to democracy and rule of law, that the alleged victories of democracy in Pax Americana are actually victories of Pax Americana authoritarianism, and that there are unreported victories of democracy under people of color and Communism.

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        It’s a flawed analogy sure, but the point still stands. It’s easy for non-politicians to have moral clarity and take principled stances, but if you’re in government trying to actually effect positive changes to society, it’s not that simple at all.

        Edit: please don’t bother to engage in further dialogue. I’ve been banned so can’t reply. Ciao!

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          They are not “trying to actually effect positive changes to society”. That is exactly what being a liberal is all about - zero understanding of the material reality. What they are actually trying to do every day is upholding the interests of capital. And that means serving a specific economic group - the capitalists, or “the bourgeoisie”. Whether by starting wars all over the globe, instigating coups, financing fascist death squads, supporting actual genocide, what have you. They don’t give two shits about you, positive changes to society, anyone really but their donors and themselves.

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            And yet so many benefits that workers enjoy today were brought about through collective bargaining, trade unions, and pro-labor legislation (not to such a great extent in the US, but whatevs) introduced by principled politicians who weren’t wholly under the boot of the ruling classes.

            I know in this sub that sounds like a cop-out, but it’s true. Not everyone has the stomach for yet another bloody revolution.

            Edit: please don’t bother to engage in further dialogue. I’ve been banned so can’t reply. Ciao!

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              Not everyone has the stomach for yet another bloody revolution.

              But seeing Palestinians die is fine? I don’t think the lack of bloodlust is the issue at all.