Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’ - The former president said only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    1 year ago

    In fairness to Trump (there’s a sentence I never thought I’d write…)

    ““He said I stood over graves of soldiers and I said: ‘These people are suckers and losers,”

    That’s technically correct. He did not say those things in public.

    Edit I watched the ad, it does not specify that Trump said these things in public, just that he said them which is true.

    He said them privately to staff members.

    Confirmed by Trump’s former Chief of Staff, John Kelly:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

    But my favorite quote out of all this is the one that barely gets mentioned:

    https://www.axios.com/2023/10/02/trump-troops-fallen-soldiers-john-kelly

    Trump saying at a 2017 Memorial Day event in Arlington National Cemetery: “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

    Trump is ENTIRELY transactional. The idea that good men would fight a war for their country purely because it’s the right thing to do escapes him entirely.

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      1 year ago

      “What was in it for them?”

      Sounds like a perfectly reasonable question to me… far more reasonable than simply assuming the people who perpetrated the US’s colonialist mass-murder campaigns in the third world was simply “good men” (supposedly) “doing the right thing.”

      Good job making Trump sound more rational than you, hero.

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        This take just baffles me… you can disapprove of a war, and still respect people willing to put their life on the line for something they believe is right. Even in war, opposing sides have a long history of showing their enemy a certain amount of personal respect, even though they clearly disagree about something to the point of killing each other over it.

        Your take is just condescending and unempathetic. You can respect someone for sacrificing themselves without agreeing with them about what they’re sacrificing themselves for. Regardless, it shouldn’t be hard to see how someone fighting to depose an infamously brutal dictator (Iraq) or a fundamentalist regime that stones women for wanting a divorce (Afghanistan) can believe that they are doing something good.