• Ukraine is getting the upper hand against Russian invasion with help from allies (including Biden Admin)

Trump Admin enters the chat:

  • Calls Zelensky a dictator
  • Says Ukraine “shouldn’t have started the war”
  • Humiliates Zelensky before the world in Oval Office
  • Lies about Europe sending less aid than the US towards Ukraine
  • Profits by reinvesting a big percentage of the war aid in replenishing its own arsenal from donating nearly defunct weapons and replacing them with cutting edge gear, but claims it’s being taken advantage of
  • Begins talks with Russia without Ukraine present
  • Undermines Zelensky by attempting to manipulate his political opposition behind the scenes
  • Says Ukraine better be “ready to lose some land”
  • Implies they could shut off starlink support “if they wanted to”
  • Cuts off aid packages and strategic intel, costing Ukraine their bargaining chip in Kursk
  • Starts a trade war with the whole planet, applying tariffs on everyone except for Russia and its allies
  • Attempts to extort Ukraine for 50% of its minerals in perpetuity, in exchange for nothing
  • Signals Russia that the US is ready to cozy up to them and lift sanctions
  • Bails on Ukraine after realizing “this is harder than it seemed”

Boy, what went wrong? They did everything right since they took office. /s /s /s

Some people are much more valuable staying the heck away on what they’re clearly unqualified for, than with this kind of “help”.

  • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    21 days ago

    Unfortunately, I think the best we can hope for is Trump just walking away. But knowing him, he’ll want to drop sanctions on Russia.

  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
    01·
    21 days ago

    So, I agree with most of this, but under Biden the US donated and supported far more than Europe. It’s a joke to put Europe ahead of that.

    • khannie@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      21 days ago

      No it didn’t. Europe ponied up mostly cash to keep the country running while the US donated arms and intelligence because they had more of it but total value Europe was ahead.

      • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
        0·
        20 days ago

        Yeah, it’s not all about money. But okay. Let’s erase history, just like Trump and the conservatives like to do.

        Edit: An interesting graph you may want to check out. US intelligence sharing aside, is this really the hill you want to die on?

        Ukrainian support

        Which country are you all from? One in the EU? Other?

        another graph of support

        Props to Denmark, though… Respect.

        Denmark is spending the most GDP percent on Ukraine

        Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62002218

        Source 2: https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/28489/ukrainian-military-humanitarian-and-financial-aid-donors/

        • Wanpieserino@lemm.eeBanned
          1·
          20 days ago

          You know that when you separate EU from countries like Germany etc, that you no longer represent a total of europe. Since now a lot of Europe is under “other countries”.

          USA is a large country, the size of china and Europe.

          What you should go with, would be help per capita.

          Europe has a higher population. While USA is a bit lower on that stuff.

          But then again we could counter that with help compared to GDP. Then we’d be winning again.

          Anyways. This is a literal war. What the fuck we even doing